Bus drivers union calls Denver Union Station a "hellhole."

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As for needed a college degree it’s overrated and trade school is still a needed profession. That and quality warehouse pickers.
Yeah, but the trades, and even warehouse pickers require some skill (the trades require a lot of skill), and people doing the work need to have at least some desire to do a good job. I mean would you want to give some homeless person who's homeless because he's a slacker who doesn't want to work a job as OBS on an Amtrak long-distance train? :) I mean, that job doesn't require a college degree.
 
Yeah, but the trades, and even warehouse pickers require some skill (the trades require a lot of skill), and people doing the work need to have at least some desire to do a good job. I mean would you want to give some homeless person who's homeless because he's a slacker who doesn't want to work a job as OBS on an Amtrak long-distance train? I mean, that job doesn't require a college degree.
If you limit support because the recipients might be slackers then you get what we have now. Is this a good solution? Should we be proud of this?
 
If you limit support because the recipients might be slackers then you get what we have now. Is this a good solution? Should we be proud of this?
No, I agree with neroden that even the "slackers" need to get support. I think I slightly disagree with Just Thinking, who seems to imply that that the very small percentage of people who are demotivated to work will somehow become motivated by providing them access to trade schools (which I support) or unskilled labor, like warehouse jobs. If a person is not motivated to work for whatever reason, though usually it's stuff beyond their control, how would they be motivated to do a good job, even if you throw the job in their lap? Nonetheless, letting them rot in the street comes back to bite us in the rear. At the very least, we should be giving all these homeless people basic housing. In the long run, it's probably cheaper for the rest of us and saves us all a lot of problems, aside from being a right thing to do for people with a lot of problems.
 
Sorry miss read on the trade school thing. I am not anti-college, just not ever job needs a college degree in Roman History. Not ever job needs trade school either.

My point is a lot of homeless have jobs, but still can’t afford housing. So I am for the housing first plan. The amount of homeless I see and deal with in greater Denver, indicates to me it’s a lack of housing affordability. The rest area just north of Denver has shut off the water so you can’t wash up at there sinks, the parking lot is full at night with people sleeping in cars, RVs. These people have jobs, they can’t afford a house. The amount of homeless in Denver (a not so warm climate) is very impressive.
 
If you limit support because the recipients might be slackers then you get what we have now. Is this a good solution? Should we be proud of this?
Well, that was my point actually. Far too many people want to limit support because the recipients might be slackers, and... they're wrong. If the recipients are slackers, all the more important to give them support to stay out of the way.
 
Public transit in Colorado contains some of the weirdest agencies and plans that I have come across. Beyond FasTracks not working as planned and it costing more despite the promise of the P3 was it would be cheaper than if RTD did the whole thing themselves. Union Station was a glamour project and I'm surprised the transit workers union was the first to mention anything. Given that Union Station is basically a mall with a bus station in the basement, I'm surprised "important people" haven't said anything sooner. Lets hope they clean the place up before the high speed Amtrak line opens, if Colorado Springs doesn't kill it.

Dallas's Union Station could be so much nicer. The last time I visited it, about 4 years ago, the air was stale and stuffy inside. It was nothing I'd brag about. But it is a station that Amtrak doesn't have to back out of.

However the Dart TRE that runs between Dallas and Ft. Worth, I don't know how they do that so that the engine is in front when leaving Dallas...
 
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