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    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    Sadly, that was the 1970 fire that destroyed Robert Stephenson’s original tubular - in effect box girder - structure on the Britannia Bridge. It was rebuilt to a different design, using his original piers, and later a road was put on top of the railway. You couldn’t accuse Stephenson of having...
  2. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    Yes, the train ran as a single consist on the English side, and certainly on the ferry. I think the two portions were joined/divided at Lille, so ran as a single train between Dunkerque and Lille.
  3. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    There was one from Kristiansand in Norway to Hirtshals in Denmark (at the north end of Jutland). Within Norway there was also the Tinnsjø ferry - as featured (in a fictionalised version of real events) being blown up by Kirk Douglas in the film The Heroes of Telemark.
  4. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    Yes, the Fishguard-Rosslare route was a joint venture between the Great Western in Britain and the Great Southern and Western in Ireland - which had a line from Dublin to Rosslare Harbour (now in a sad state south and west of Wexford - see the thread on Irish Railways). Both harbours and their...
  5. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    In 1912 they would certainly have taken the train from London to whichever port, then crossed by the ferry (as foot passengers) and then caught another train. There would have been several viable routes, really depending on the sea crossing taken. The most likely route for Germany would have...
  6. J

    London Tilbury and Southend Railway

    The London Overground thing has been quite successful. The basic idea is that if someone wants to go from (say) twelve on the clock face to (say) three or four, get them to go round the edge rather than into the centre and out again. If that gives some urban regeneration to two and three as...
  7. J

    London Tilbury and Southend Railway

    That’ll be the Gospel Oak to Barking line. I’ve never travelled on it, but it *was* one of those ugly ducklings that occupy backwaters of the system, with apparently little purpose. However… it was electrified in 2018, is being extended to a new development on the estuary at Barking Riverside...
  8. J

    London Tilbury and Southend Railway

    Nothing on weekdays, but actually quite a few trains to/from Liverpool Street at weekends - which makes sense, because the extra capacity can be spared then. Quite a few of these “route knowledge” diversions are discernible in the timetable. Sadly, this doesn’t happen as much these days - too...
  9. J

    Berney Arms: Quietest rail stop sees eight-fold passenger rise

    Almost certainly all of it - or at least from general interest from eccentrics railfans. It’s one line I must do - along with the Flying Dentonian… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denton_railway_station
  10. J

    London Tilbury and Southend Railway

    Ripple Lane indeed. It’s at about the point where the high speed line from the Channel Tunnel dives underground for the long approach to St Pancras.
  11. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    The other point re Paris is that most (all?) of the TGV service to Basel now runs from Gare de Lyon, via the LGV sud-est, Dijon, the LGV Rhône-Rhin, and Mulhouse. So the change in Paris is not as easy as Gare du Nord to Gare de l’Est. Some of the TGVs from Paris run through to Zürich. But the...
  12. J

    Not a new member - a new username!

    I suppose “the poster formerly known as frensicpic“ doesn’t quite trip off the tongue so well. All the best.
  13. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    I’m not sure via Paris is actually the shortest route. Broadly following the Rhine looks to be the logical way to go (also involving only two nations, apart from the last lap into Basel SBB, where DB would in any case have run through).
  14. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    Thanks for posting. The newsreel extract at the beginning is a classic period piece. There was a particular patronising style of voiceover that - by then - was reserved for exactly this sort of piece.
  15. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    Yes, that’s right. Searching for Port of Richborough brings up a lot of detail. They would have chosen a green field site because Dover was already full up. Those ferries didn’t have too much freeboard, and the bow and stern doors were rudimentary by modern ro-ro standards :eek:.
  16. J

    Amazing how many rail professionals are on this forum

    You clearly haven’t read much… :eek:
  17. J

    London Tilbury and Southend Railway

    Apologies for snipping part of your post, but to reply broadly in order… Southend has declined still further, I suspect. The significance of the takeover of the LT&S by the Midland was that the Tilbury boat trains could be run to and from St Pancras, where the facilities were considerably...
  18. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    There was a Brussels sleeper and - for a couple of winters in the late 1960s - a Basel sleeper for ski traffic. Nice pictures. Note that the BR double-arrow logo on your fourth picture was used on the ferries in this era - but used in reverse format for the maritime “port to port” rule of the...
  19. J

    The pre Euro Tunnel train to Paris...

    That is correct. Only Dunkerque and - as you observe - Zeebrugge in Belgium had linkspans for rail traffic. Dover originally had a separate area of the harbour - with lock access - so that the level was more or less constant. Later this was replaced with a linkspan that could cope with the full...
  20. J

    Ireland rail - a few photos

    I see from the map that in the north-west there is one of those excellent stations in the middle of nowhere - Manulla Junction - that has no public access to/from the outside world. Like Manhattan Transfer, but possibly with fewer passengers.
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