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    Will full service dining ever return to the Western trains?

    Like you, I am known among my friends and acquaintances as the guy to call if someone is thinking about a train trip. Ever since contemporary/flexible dining made its debut on the Lake Shore and Capitol, I have been advising people to avoid the affected trains. Now I'm having to tell them to...
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    Will full service dining ever return to the Western trains?

    The business class seats are on the Boston section (trains 448/449), in one end of the lounge car. The operation has been a bit inconsistent the past couple of years, with the Boston section often canceled for track work and other issues.
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    Will full service dining ever return to the Western trains?

    If it's only temporary because of the pandemic, I'm OK with it, so maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves here. After all, Amtrak did say at the outset of this that it would restore full-service dining on the western trains when the health emergency has passed. But because of how Amtrak has...
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    Will full service dining ever return to the Western trains?

    This is exactly how I feel about it. There has hardly been a time in the past 35 years that I haven't had a future long-distance train trip at some level of planning, but right now I have nothing pending or even imagined. Partly it's the coronavirus, but it's also the food. I expect at some...
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    Will full service dining ever return to the Western trains?

    Well, the El Capitan budget meal plan looks way better than anything Amtrak offers now. But if we're not going to have bacon and eggs or griddle cakes for breakfast, certainly adding the cafe menu to the list of possibilities for sleeping car passengers would be less bad than the extremely...
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    Will full service dining ever return to the Western trains?

    Well, it's true: For those who don't mind putting up with the prepackaged meals, there will be plenty of rooms available even at the last minute. Even before the pandemic, I was noticing that the Lake Shore and Crescent hardly had any dates in the December holiday period when the sleepers were...
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    Will full service dining ever return to the Western trains?

    I do hope you are right, in the sense that some would be better than none.
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    Will full service dining ever return to the Western trains?

    If full-service dining doesn't return, I won't be riding any of those trains again. If it does return, and if we actually get the coronavirus under control, I would like to go west again. But I'd still have to figure out how to get from the Northeast to Chicago. I have already sworn off the Lake...
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    Eastern Sleeping Car Passengers Pre-Order Meals

    Yuk. I already have given up on them. Which distresses me greatly, as train travel has been one of the great pleasures of my life. But I just can't pretend that I would enjoy eating this stuff. For the price paid for a sleeper room, it's really an insult.
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    Maple Leaf Question

    No. 63, the westbound Maple Leaf, has not been running at all since late March. No. 64, the eastbound, still runs from Niagara Falls to New York. No. 281, the 10:20 a.m. from Penn Station, is the first daily westbound departure to anywhere west/north of Poughkeepsie. So, the choices for now...
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    Flexible dining - Requesting a review from a recent rider

    The car has advantages -- including that one can poke around at railroad sites along the way, at least to the extent one's family will tolerate it. But If it's a trip of more than 2-4 hours, I really do get weary of being behind the wheel. The train by comparison was a pleasure. And it's not...
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    Flexible dining - Requesting a review from a recent rider

    Ugh. Just looking at the food pictures here reminds me why I don't want to take Amtrak anymore. I have loved traveling by train and was an AGR Select Plus member for many years based mainly on long-distance travel in sleeper cars. Last year, after "contemporary" food came to the Lake Shore and...
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    Service Reductions effective October 1

    As a formerly frequent sleeper traveler, it seems to me that Amtrak's management had already turned sleeper service into "coach with a bed," at least on the eastern trains, before the pandemic hit. With the advent of "contemporary" boxed meals, the dining cars are no longer used for cooking, nor...
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    How do feel about riding "Coach" ?

    Thank you for explaining that with much fuller context. I thought I remembered that there was a wreck that somehow figured into it, but couldn't recall the details. Your review of the sleeper services that disappeared in the early 2000s does underscore how much Amtrak service is still...
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    How do feel about riding "Coach" ?

    As I recall, the claim was that Amtrak didn't have enough Viewliner sleepers to go around. There was a period when the Cardinal had run with Superliner cars and terminated at Washington, so it may have had to do with re-equipping that train to resume through service to New York. I remember...
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    How do feel about riding "Coach" ?

    I suppose you're right. I don't sleep as well in my own bed as I did 30 years ago. But I do sleep better when I can lie down flat than when I'm reclining in a chair.
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    How do feel about riding "Coach" ?

    Back in the late '80s, I used to ride #66 regularly from Newark to Boston to meet up with my girlfriend, now my wife. The coaches were unreserved, and a big crowd got off at NYP. From there I would usually have two seats to myself until at least Providence. I got very good at sleeping in fetal...
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    Richard Anderson replacing Wick Moorman as Amtrak CEO

    Congress dictated that Amtrak should not lose money on food service, which is a boneheaded requirement that wasn't Anderson's fault. But Anderson chose to meet this requirement by implementing a service model that showed zero comprehension of what Amtrak's most loyal, high-revenue customers...
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    Richard Anderson replacing Wick Moorman as Amtrak CEO

    He'll be remembered by me as the guy who killed dining service on all of the eastern overnight trains, thereby making it unlikely that I'll ride any of them again other than for short distances.
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    COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Pandemic: Amtrak-related Discussion

    I saw #49 passing through Hudson, NY, yesterday. Consist was one coach, Viewliner diner, one sleeper, two baggage cars. Bare bones, but I'm sure no one is traveling unless they really must. Given the situation in New York, I'm impressed the trains are still running for those who need them.
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