Of course. I had the thought of operating the trainset with a student. During my time at NS certain units had a jump seat for such an occasion. I’ll take a guess that the cabs will have a jump seat. Either way it’s not the same as sitting next to someone who can give you tips and show you certain tricks of operating.They already are. It is likely going to become an issue when it comes to training students.
Someone beat you to it. [emoji4] The piece was on last week.https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/amtrak-new-acela-trains-first-look/
Some cool footage of the new trains in this CBS news video!
The existing Acela sets were a joint venture between Bombardier and Alstom. Alstom designed the power cars and provided the traction equipment, electronics and the powered and non-powered trucks.Interestingly, the power heads even in the Bombardier sets are mostly Alstom.
I think the major problem with the current fleet is simple. They brought it online and was built during a time where technology was going through a major change. The new trainsets won’t have that issue. AFAIK. Either way I personally look forward to hopefully being able to photograph both the old and new at track speed somewhere. But that’s just a matter of luck and timing things out in the employee timetable. Which the employee timetable is harder and harder to get a hold of these days. With good cause.The power heads were more or less entirely Alstom. Bombardier’s main contribution was the LRC derived cars and the tilt system.
The Feds shooting in the dark? Now that doesn't surprise me one bit!I think the real problem with the current fleet is that it had to be built to a FRA imposed standard that makes no sense in the real world. FRA has since recanted and finally admitted that they had no idea what needed to be done for speeds above 125mph and were simply shooting in the dark.
It is not replace as much as to expand capacity. Expansion from 20 -1s to 28 -2s train sets and more capacity on each -2 train set. As well additional cars can be bought to insert into the Acela-2s train sets at a cost that was going to be much less than Acela-1s sets if they could be bought at all ? Probably one way to expand -1s would be to split up some -1s and insert them into other -1s. However that would only happen if passenger demand exceeded any Amtrak projections which is highly unlikely.I guess I'm skeptical but I'm wondering if they will get 30 to 40 years out of this equipment. The fact they need to replace the current Acela fleet still boggles my mind.
I can agree with you Jis, that the original Acela's are done for. I'm personally looking forward to the new Acela sets. For a wide variety of reasons.Acela 1s are toast no matter how much railfans want to dream otherwise.
Acela 21 cars (Yes Amtrak official terminology is Acela 21 for the new sets) are basically standard TGV cars with a few tweaks, so it is not a big deal to conjure up a few additional ones if needed, unlike Acela 1 cars which were a one of a type thing and for which there was no production line extant once the order had been delivered.
Ok folks.. I picked up a copy of the September issue of TRAINS today and just got done reading the article. Most of the photos in the article are already online. I think their is one photo that would intrigue some of the end of the cars will look like.In the September issue of "Trains" Magazine their is an article relating to the new Acela sets. I actually caught wind of it by accident when I accidentally ended up on their website. So IF you have a subscription to "Trains" magazine you should have that issue now, and if you're not like me head to a place that sells magazines usually after the 21st of the month. A family friend who is a subscriber says that the article is good and has some good photos.
A lot of that is a result of the introduction of the FRA Tier II standards during the design and production of the Acela Is. They weren't supposed to have two power cars, but a power car and a cab so they ended up with double the needed power. The design changes also caused the weight to shoot up.Ok folks.. I picked up a copy of the September issue of TRAINS today and just got done reading the article. Most of the photos in the article are already online. I think their is one photo that would intrigue some of the end of the cars will look like.
Some interesting notes that should be taken into account.
The current fleet is 666 feet in length. (They couldn't add another foot?)
The new trainsets will be 698 feet in length. An additional 32 feet. Almost half a car. (Standard Passenger Cars are 85 feet)
The weight of the new trainsets is astonishing to me. 544 tons. The current fleet? 624!! 80 tons will make a huge difference in several ways.
The new fleet will have a continuous power draw of 7,500 KW. The current is at 9,200 KW.
I'm not sure what wasn't already in the machine rooms: there's a transformer, input inverters/rectifiers/power conditioning, traction inverters, HEP inverters, control hardware, and traction motors. Obviously the traction motors are underneath in the trucks/bogies. The A1's had the transformer "underfloor" (source). Were any of the inverters not in the mechanical room of an A1?Many key components that are related to traction will be within the machine room of the power cars. Which is supposed to improve reliability. (We shall see about that)