Amtrak Derailment near Chicago (7/28/19)

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https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Amtrak-Train-Collides-With-Truck-in-Monee-Police-513317531.html

An Amtrak train collided with a vehicle on the tracks south of University Park Metra Station Sunday evening, authorities said.

Amtrak initially tweeted that Illinois Train 393 "stopped between Homewood and Kankakee due to a vehicle on the tracks."

A statement later released said that the crash which occurred around 5 p.m. Sunday, derailed one locomotive and five passenger cars.
As a result southbound CONO is canceled today (7/28/19)
 

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Looks like a box truck. I would’ve been really surprised if a normal sedan derailed the train, but I suppose anything like that can if the circumstances are right.

Appears that 4616 held up pretty well.
 
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The original article started off by mentioning the driver who went around the gates making it clear that it wasn't a speeding train just running him down.

The second one didn't even mention that he went around the gates.
Well a train can't exactly veer off the tracks and travel down a roadway, so it's pretty clear the driver was on the tracks.
 

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Looks like a box truck. I would’ve been really surprised if a normal sedan derailed the train, but I suppose anything like that can if the circumstances are right.

Appears that 4616 held up pretty well.
The engine while off the track, seems to have handled it pretty well for a 70+ MPH collision. We'd still have to see what it looks like after removing the debris from the front, but from what the video shows, the Charger looks pretty good.
 

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Perhaps we should open this topic to wider discussion since it could be any grade crossing incident.

What Happened to Stop, Look and Listen?
https://www.railwayage.com/safety/what-happened-to-stop-look-and-listen/?RAchannel=passenger

From my perspective, nothing has changed since that horrible March night more than 20 years ago. Amtrak’s self-insurance continues to fund, where feasible, equipment repairs and liabilities to passengers; the cost of business interruption of the train involved and possible cancellation of other trains due to damaged infrastructure; and costs for replacement bus transportation, hotels, meals for its displaced passengers. As well, the freight railroad (usually a Class I) on whose infrastructure Amtrak is a tenant also pays to repair its infrastructure and in certain cases, passenger liabilities.
This interesting premise comes as a result of this derailment.

As railroads represent interstate commerce, Congress is the appropriate legislative body at the federal level to implement the desired legislation to explicitly state:

Preamble

It shall be the intent of this bill to treat the rise in vehicular (auto, truck, bus) willful violation of railroad grade crossings protected by gates, flashing lights, and bells; or by train horns, as the country previously dealt with the unacceptable rise in DUI accidents, and the carnage caused by such reckless behavior.

Responsibility

If the driver of the auto/truck survives when avoiding the grade crossing warnings and gets hit by the train, the driver will automatically lose his or her license for twelve months. If such incident at a grade crossing is repeated, the driver will automatically and permanently lose his or her driving license. If a truck driver is caught driving without a license, or repeating yet again another case of contributory negligence by incursion of the grade crossing, the driver is automatically sentenced to federal prison for no less than three years, loses his or her license, and is disqualified for insurance coverage. Clearly, such negligent drivers are not to be re-hired, or hired by another trucking firm. Ideally, all truck firms shall utilize the hair test during recruitment, and on a random basis on drivers, to identify potential drug or alcohol problems, in order to intervene in a preemptive manner.

Liability

As it shall be deemed that all liability shall be exclusively on the truck driver and his or her insurance, all truck firms smaller in size than national shall be required to carry the appropriate level of insurance for intra-state and interstate commerce to cover the following liabilities:

1) Property Damage/Repairs: Amtrak and commuter rail equipment; freight railroad infrastructure in lieu of self-insurance or deductions.

2) Comprehensive Health Care, Treatment, Pharmaceuticals, DME, and Rehabilitation for injured crews from Amtrak, commuter or freight railroad; Amtrak or commuter passengers; with the intent to avoid for the injured party all costs related to deductions, out-of-pocket, out-of-network, transportation for family member to out of area hospital, and air ambulance returning to their hometown.

3) Comprehensive Death Benefits: A set number will need to be identified by age and family status to fully cover survivors of deceased, e.g., mortgage, college, etc.

4) Business Interruption: To avoid cost of self-insurance or deductions, freight railroad to be reimbursed for all costs incurred due to business interruption of its services in either direction due to negligence of driver that disrupts the infrastructure. Amtrak/commuter line to be reimbursed for all costs incurred due to business interruption as defined above, including cancellation of trains in either direction for the period infrastructure is under repair; as well, substitute transportation, food, hotel.

These costs shall be paid in full upon receipt by the insurance of the auto driver, with the balance paid by the driver or liens on their property; by the trucking firm or its insurance. If the trucking firm is involved in another such grade crossing accident within twelve consecutive months from the time of the initial encroachment upon the grade crossing, the U.S. DOT will penalize the trucking firm with a significant step system of fines appropriate to the accident and place its commercial license on probation; as well, directly notify the carrier’s insurance to ensure the policy going forward is covered by a higher, punitive cost, with the possibility of being cancelled. In essence, there can be no longer be any deference to such rogue drivers and the accidents and bodily harm caused due to exhaustion/fatigue or making time, as induced by marijuana, drugs or alcohol.
I'm not sure I agree with penalizing the trucking firm for the action of an employee who could have been lost and I wouldn't mind if this happens to the general public. It should be decided on case by case basis but I appreciate the dialogue.
 

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Heck, we can't even get people to buy Medical Insurance for themselves, or for that matter always have a valid license and insurance while driving either. :( But still, getting large truck operators a bit more under control regarding grade crossing incidents would be useful. Honestly, I have no idea what to do with individual drivers who insist on playing Russian Roulette. They behave the same way on roads too even when far away from grade crossings. There are ever increasing incidence of red light running accidents, and any technical means to try to catch them in the act, like traffic light cameras, are considered to be inappropriate invasion of privacy or something like that.

It is as if the entire populations like the traffic casualty rate per year and wants to enable healthy growth if they can.
 

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Honestly, I have no idea what to do with individual drivers who insist on playing Russian Roulette
I fully agree with suspending their licenses. Prior to restoration, they should have to go through a class taught/sponsored by Operation Redblock.
 
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