Amtrak Express

[Just-Thinking-51]

All the major players still use rail. Amazon, UPS, FedEx, and even USPS. When and where it makes sense. Just not in a box car, or baggage car but with Intermodal. Trailers/container markings are the give away. Not all are paint with the company logo, you sometimes have to look at the reporting marks.

 

[bms]

All the car shuffling moved to SLC after the Zephyr was moved to the Moffatt Line. Before that all the car and passenger shuffling among the three used to take place at Ogden.

The Pioneer split at Denver happened in the third incarnation of the Pioneer a little after the Second incarnations of Pioneer and desert Wind were discontinued.

In the first incarnation the Pioneer was a Salt Lake City to Seattle train and the Desert Wind was an Ogden to Los Angeles train and neither exchanged any cars with the then San Francisco Zephyr in Ogden.

The second incarnation was when they started exchanging cars and notionally at least the eastern origin/termination point of both 25/26 and 35/36 moved to Chicago.

I think if Amtrak were to re-start the Pioneer and the Desert Wind, ridership would be pretty good. Population in all the key cities for these routes has gone way up.

 

[Gary Behling]

I loved those trains!!! I remember how exciting it was to roll into Las Vegas at night.