Amtrak unit on freight train at Flagstaff

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Hope Amtrak send them the bill for the damage to that units frame. Those Amtrak units are not designed to pull that much weight and frame will be twisted from the forces applied.
 

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It was set out from the SWC more than a week ago at Hibbard, AZ.
DIC (dead in consist) back to L.A.
 

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Hope Amtrak send them the bill for the damage to that units frame. Those Amtrak units are not designed to pull that much weight and frame will be twisted from the forces applied.
I have seen Amtrak dead in tow engines in that position in freight trains before, and all of them seemed to have survived the ordeal so far.
 
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I do recall when Amtrak was pulling all those express cars that they were having problems with the frames. So maybe a short time will not cause any issues.
 

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Heard from an Amtrak friend...he saw 117 at BNSF Hobart Yard in Los Angeles today.
 
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How do they move it from there to the LA yards? Just move it alone?
 

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I do recall when Amtrak was pulling all those express cars that they were having problems with the frames. So maybe a short time will not cause any issues.
The static and dynamic forces in a locomotive frame that is dead in tow I would expect is very very different from one that is powering a train.
 

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How do they move it from there to the LA yards? Just move it alone?
Either BNSF will "deliver" it to the Amtrak shops in LA or, Amtrak will send a switcher down to Hobart to pick it up. I'm guessing the latter. I'll ask.
 
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The static and dynamic forces in a locomotive frame that is dead in tow I would expect is very very different from one that is powering a train.
Something on the order of towing deadheading steam locos -?- just a whole lot of dead weight in transit.
 
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