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I am on 97 Silver Meteor right now and both the 10 and the 11 cars are V2 sleepers. On Tuesday's 98 Silver Meteor, the 10 car was a V1 and the 11 car was a V2.

I am guessing things got a bit "messed up" as a result of hurricane/tropical storm Nicole.
 
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I'm looking at booking the Silver service out of Miami around 12/16/22. Most days I look (like 12/17) there is a 98 Meteor departing in the early morning and the 92 Star departing around noon. But I'm not finding a 92 on Friday 12/16. What am I missing? Thanks.
 
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I'm looking at booking the Silver service out of Miami around 12/16/22. Most days I look (like 12/17) there is a 98 Star departing in the early morning and the 92 Star departing around noon. But I'm not finding a 92 on Friday 12/16. What am I missing? Thanks.
98 is not Star. It is Meteor.

I just looked up 12/16 and had no problem finding both the 92 Star and the 98 Meteor departing Miami.
 
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Yes, I forgot to fix the edit.
Right now if I go to the Amtrak page and put in MIA to BOS, on 12/16 I don't get offered a Star. Just the Meteor. Ahh, if I change to MIA -> NYP then I get it. Must be a NYP to BOS connection issue.
Yes, the NER @ 9:00pm is not showing.
 
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Yes, I forgot to fix the edit.
Right now if I go to the Amtrak page and put in MIA to BOS, on 12/16 I don't get offered a Star. Just the Meteor. Ahh, if I change to MIA -> NYP then I get it. Must be a NYP to BOS connection issue.
The Star arrives in NYP too late to connect to BOS
 

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Eventually I think, if they are really serious about an overnight train on the NEC extending into Virginia or beyond, they would be better off running an honest to goodness full fledged LD train. Maybe they could rejigger the schedule of the existing LD Palmetto and have it originate.terminate at Boston, and at the other end extend it to JAX and have it carry Sleepers, Diner etc.. But of course more equipment will be needed for such.
 

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Eventually I think, if they are really serious about an overnight train on the NEC extending into Virginia or beyond, they would be better off running an honest to goodness full fledged LD train. Maybe they could rejigger the schedule of the existing LD Palmetto and have it originate.terminate at Boston, and at the other end extend it to JAX and have it carry Sleepers, Diner etc.. But of course more equipment will be needed for such.
jis: I like your post. Can you envision or imagine a train with sleepers and a diner departing BOS on a schedule like the old Twilight Shoreliner--continuing on south to SAV and JAX. Maybe even MIA like the Silver Palm of the late 1990's and early 2000's (but I guess that would require two overnights). I suspect that this would really be a pipe dream that I will NOT see in my lifetime. Occasionally some things do happen in Amtrak operations that can surprise you.
 
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Maybe even MIA like the Silver Palm of the late 1990's and early 2000's (but I guess that would require two overnights).
Sounds very much like an extended Silver Palm. This would attract riders in the Carolinas that want to go north or south overnight as well as New England customers. Seaboard’s Palmland and ACL’s Havana Special/Gulf Coast Special had very sizable trains. While most of the passengers in sleepers were between the Carolinas and NY, the Miami sleeper did well until the trains were cut back.

Nothing wrong with a two night train if that enables it to serve different markets. One way to do this now is reschedule the Silver Star to be more like the Silver Palm but originate in Boston and beef up the Meteor to carry more end to end customers. But yes, a few more of those idled Viewliners would be needed - maybe one additional train set?
 

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I am one of those passengers who does not like Bedroom A on a Silver Viewliner. The couch is facing backwards. Bedroom B is my favorite, but I will accept A and sit in the chair if that is my only choice, which it will be on my next trip.
Another topic from this thread has been the issue of Viewliner Bedrooms. Since their introduction in the late 1990's, the Viewliners most always ride with the vestibule entrance in the forward of the car as well a Rooms H, A and B at the head end (H rides forward, A rides backward, B rides forward) Roomettes are moot since they have 2 forward-backward seats. But, correct me if I am wrong, the car could (if the train consist was built in the yard that way) actually ride with the vestibule entrance at the back with the H riding backward, A forward, B backward--the downside of which would be the passenger in B and/or H expecting to ride forward might be unhappy. My point and inquiry is simply to confirm the the equipment could be operated either way at the whim of a yardmaster.
 

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Another topic from this thread has been the issue of Viewliner Bedrooms. Since their introduction in the late 1990's, the Viewliners most always ride with the vestibule entrance in the forward of the car as well a Rooms H, A and B at the head end (H rides forward, A rides backward, B rides forward) Roomettes are moot since they have 2 forward-backward seats. But, correct me if I am wrong, the car could (if the train consist was built in the yard that way) actually ride with the vestibule entrance at the back with the H riding backward, A forward, B backward--the downside of which would be the passenger in B and/or H expecting to ride forward might be unhappy. My point and inquiry is simply to confirm the the equipment could be operated either way at the whim of a yardmaster.
They could ride either way mechanically. But normally the H end would be towards the Diner. So if the Sleepers are in the back of the train as they are these days they would be H forward. OTOH if they are in the front of the train then they would be H facing back towards the Diner. The Diner will generally have the Kitchen end facing the Coaches and the Table end facing the Sleepers.
 

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Another topic from this thread has been the issue of Viewliner Bedrooms. Since their introduction in the late 1990's, the Viewliners most always ride with the vestibule entrance in the forward of the car as well a Rooms H, A and B at the head end (H rides forward, A rides backward, B rides forward) Roomettes are moot since they have 2 forward-backward seats. But, correct me if I am wrong, the car could (if the train consist was built in the yard that way) actually ride with the vestibule entrance at the back with the H riding backward, A forward, B backward--the downside of which would be the passenger in B and/or H expecting to ride forward might be unhappy. My point and inquiry is simply to confirm the the equipment could be operated either way at the whim of a yardmaster.
Years ago, the Silver sleepers were in the front of the train during the summer months and in the rear during the winter. I think the Silver sleepers have been at the rear year round for at least 8 years.
 
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I love riding backwards and, if in a roomette by myself, sometimes will switch seats just for variety. If sharing, I’ll offer to take the seat facing backwards.

I have avoided bedrooms for the reason (aside from the cost) that, oddly since I’m fine with riding backwards, I have a hard time adjusting to sleeping “sideways” instead of having my body moving in the same direction as the train.

I may have to get used to it, though—I would have trouble going down the hall to a bathroom at night (heck, I don’t find it easy in the daytime!😁) and will probably save up and get a bedroom in the new Viewliners to have my own bathroom.
 
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I love riding backwards and, if in a roomette by myself, sometimes will switch seats just for variety. If sharing, I’ll offer to take the seat facing backwards.

I have avoided bedrooms for the reason (aside from the cost) that, oddly since I’m fine with riding backwards, I have a hard time adjusting to sleeping “sideways” instead of having my body moving in the same direction as the train.

I may have to get used to it, though—I would have trouble going down the hall to a bathroom at night (heck, I don’t find it easy in the daytime!😁) and will probably save up and get a bedroom in the new Viewliners to have my own bathroom.
I also used to be more comfortable sleeping in line with the forward motion. I also liked parting the curtains to peek outside when I woke up during the night, especially when the train was stopped at a station.

But I don't have a choice now since I need the H-room.
 

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Leaving next Saturday, in a roomette on 9110, can anyone confirm if this is a Viewliner I or II. It really doesn't matter to me but I will bring an extra pair of shoes if its a II. Last time the bathroom got a little messy.
 

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Leaving next Saturday, in a roomette on 9110, can anyone confirm if this is a Viewliner I or II. It really doesn't matter to me but I will bring an extra pair of shoes if its a II. Last time the bathroom got a little messy.
Usually it is a I but it maybe a II. No guarantees. So I would bring appropriate footware.
 

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I’m booked on the Silver Star in December, going in a Bedroom in Car 9110. What has the consist been like lately? Is 9110 a VL2? I’m hoping to be finally able to ride in one. Have they resumed traditional dining? Just curious…
 

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I’m booked on the Silver Star in December, going in a Bedroom in Car 9110. What has the consist been like lately? Is 9110 a VL2? I’m hoping to be finally able to ride in one. Have they resumed traditional dining? Just curious…
9110 is usually a VL I.

They have not resumed traditional dining as of 11/26/22.
 

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I just saw a very late Silver Meteor 97(27) pass through Orlando (between WPK and ORL).

Consist: 1 engine (because I think it had engine issues causing the delay), 3 coaches, cafe, dining car, V1 sleeper (9710) and V2 sleeper (9711), baggage, deadhead V1 sleeper.
 

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True!!!!!! My brother and I are on that consist right now as we speak.

Currently we are again stopped right now between SBG and WPB. Train is having brake issues.

In Okeechobee.

One of the engines we left in FLO for the Auto Train to pick up and take back up north.
 
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I think on the Silvers, Crescent and the LSL New York Section, two Sleepers are pretty stable now.
jis or all: To the best of your knowledge, is the Crescent running stlll with just Viewliner 1 sleepers? Trip soon ATN-WAS-ATN and I frequently upgrade as a non-ADA passenger to the H bedroom if available--a space I have always loved in the Viewliner 1 but NOT SO MUCH in the Viewliner 2 because of the toilet location (have never seen it on the Viewliner 2--but have been told on this forum's discussion). Thanks!
 

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9110 is usually a VL I.

They have not resumed traditional dining as of 11/26/22.

Oh Well. At least I’m in a Bedroom with my own potty and shower. I haven’t had any problems with the flex dining either. This is a free trip.

My parents are coming along in May when I ride the Star. We are both in Car 9111. If that’s the VL2, then it will be very nice for my parents as I got them the H room. I’ll be in a Roomette for that trip.
 
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