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I think that I may spoken too soon about future sevice south. It could be that Amtrak might take some regionals that stop at Richmond and extend them farther into Florida. Probably 1st extend Palmetto? Even a daytime R/T to ATL could initiate by my preferred route of ATL - Raleigh - Richmond = WASH Esp by the "S" line. Another trip by Crescent route only has Danville with just one R/T. CVS will have 3-1/2 R/Ts by July 11th and if Cardinal ever goes daily>??? then 4 R/Ts. Lynchburgh 3 RTs.

This does not even consider the Texacan by way of ATL if CP gets the Meridian speedway..
 

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MODERATOR'S NOTE: There have been multiple threads scattered all over where discussion of Silver Service and Palmetto and even the Atlantic Coast portion of the Carolinian have appeared. We are creating this thread to try to consolidate all that going forward in this single thread. You can also think of this thread as a broadened continuation of the Super Star thread. We are placing a note to that effect in that thread.

Please use this thread to discuss all matters about the Amtrak Atlantic Coast Service.

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It appears Amtrak has reversed the sleepers in both consists. I observed 97(15) on the Ashland camera. Saw in this order what appeared to be an inspection car, deadhead baggage car, 3 coaches, Am2 lounge, VL2 diner, VL1 sleeper, VL2 sleeper, Bag.
 

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It appears Amtrak has reversed the sleepers in both consists. I observed 97(15) on the Ashland camera. Saw in this order what appeared to be an inspection car, deadhead baggage car, 3 coaches, Am2 lounge, VL2 diner, VL1 sleeper, VL2 sleeper, Bag.
That is the way it used to be in the Star before the Super Star happened. So they have just reverted back to the old Star car order for both the Star and the Meteor apparently. Which of course makes the Meteor car order different for now.
 
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That is the way it used to be in the Star before the Super Star happened. So they have just reverted back to the old Star car order for both the Star and the Meteor apparently. Which of course makes the Meteor car order different for now.
IMHO, it would be prudent to reverse the order, with the VL II restrooms between the 2 cars, in case the toilets fail in the VL I.
 

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Would thread include AutoTrain?
The Auto Train appears to have its own thread since it is a special case unto itself:


Although it started as a question, we will make it more general discussion thread.
 

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Was there ever a route which stayed more right on the coast than current Amtrak offerings do?
NO. Not since the Florida East Coast ended service in the 1960's. For many years before the creation of Amtrak 05/01/1971, the routes have always been Jacksonville-Ocala-Wildwood-Auburndale-West Palm and south; OR Jacksonville-DeLand-Orlando-Auburndale-West Palm and south (with several variations
including Lakeland-Tampa in the mix). There have always been those of us avid and long time railfans waiting for the return of Jacksonville-Daytona-Melbourne-Vero Beach-Stuart-West Palm and south over the FEC. (My office for the 30+ years I lived in Daytona Beach was located on the former site of the Daytona Beach railroad station). I have now been waiting for sixty (60!) years for that to happen. I am 75 years of age.
 

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That is the way it used to be in the Star before the Super Star happened. So they have just reverted back to the old Star car order for both the Star and the Meteor apparently. Which of course makes the Meteor car order different for now.
I just purchased round trip Silver Service travel for 4/30 (Silver Star) and 5/8 (Silver Meteor). My Star sleeper is 9111 and the Meteor sleeper is 9812. Have they done away with the #10 sleeper car as they seem to have done on the Lake Shore Limited?
 

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I just purchased round trip Silver Service travel for 4/30 (Silver Star) and 5/8 (Silver Meteor). My Star sleeper is 9111 and the Meteor sleeper is 9812. Have they done away with the #10 sleeper car as they seem to have done on the Lake Shore Limited?
The third Sleeper is supposed to get restored sometime in 2023. 9812 is the third Sleeper.
 

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Of course, that's what they said about November 2022, too.

@NYP2NFL01 , if you call and ask to be moved, please let us know here whether you were successful.
Yeah. I was originally booked in 9812 on 11/18. Amtrak called me to offer me either Coach on 98 that day or Sleeper on 92. I took the latter, since the time of arrival in NY did not matter to me. This trip is just tog et enough TQP to get to Select Plus. I have been trying to make this trip since July, but the Amtrak gods so far have managed to thwart it one way or the other. ;)
 
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Yeah. I was originally booked in 9812 on 11/18. Amtrak called me to offer me either Coach on 98 that day or Sleeper on 92. I took the latter, since the time of arrival in NY did not matter to me. This trip is just tog et enough TQP to get to Select Plus. I have been trying to make this trip since July, but the Amtrak gods so far have managed to thwart it one way or the other. ;)
The hurricane blew apart my plan to get to Select. I'm contemplating a 2-nite trip to Savannah in coach on the Meteor; I think that will be just enough to put me over the line.

You do get 2 TQP's per fare dollar, right?
 
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On a trip back from the northeast we stopped in Selma, NC for lunch and to check out the station that NC DOT had beautifully restored. For those unfamiliar with this stop on the Palmetto and Carolinian, it is the junction of the Norfolk Southern's line from Greensboro/Raleigh with the CSX line between Rocky Mount and Fayetteville that handles all the Atlantic Coast trains, most without stopping. The NS line continues on to Goldsboro and the coastal town of Morehead City, a route that NC has plans for passenger trains in the future.

The first photo shows a northbound CSX freight about to cross the NS line. NS has equipment working on the track in the backround. Behind me in the photo is the switch off the NS line from Raleigh to the connection with CSX.

Not sure if there is a thread on Amtrak stations for this post.

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Even though the 1924 station had been extensively restored, NC apparently felt the need to redo the platform on the connection track used by the Carolinian and the Silver Star (that does not stop). I'm not sure why this was necessary since passenger loadings are minimal and the previous platforms were from the 2002 restoration. Inside the station is the area where the ticket agent used to be and now is the attendant as well as what looks to be the original benches, some historical photos and information, and the large rest rooms. I did not think to take photos of it as we had seen it many times during our road trips north. In the 50's, Southern had two trains each way that stopped and the ACL had 3, plus many more that passed through.

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The Palmetto arrived while we were there. Two passengers off and one on. The friendly station attendant provides information to travelers, assists with boarding, and opens the station with its very nice interior and rest rooms.. Since she was not an Amtrak employee, she does not help with tickets or baggage. NC (and VA) are good supporters of passenger rail.


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On a trip back from the northeast we stopped in Selma, NC for lunch and to check out the station that NC DOT had beautifully restored. For those unfamiliar with this stop on the Palmetto and Carolinian, it is the junction of the Norfolk Southern's line from Greensboro/Raleigh with the CSX line between Rocky Mount and Fayetteville that handles all the Atlantic Coast trains, most without stopping. The NS line continues on to Goldsboro and the coastal town of Morehead City, a route that NC has plans for passenger trains in the future.

The first photo shows a northbound CSX freight about to cross the NS line. NS has equipment working on the track in the backround. Behind me in the photo is the switch off the NS line from Raleigh to the connection with CSX.

Not sure if there is a thread on Amtrak stations for this post.

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Even though the 1924 station had been extensively restored, NC apparently felt the need to redo the platform on the connection track used by the Carolinian and the Silver Star (that does not stop). I'm not sure why this was necessary since passenger loadings are minimal and the previous platforms were from the 2002 restoration. Inside the station is the area where the ticket agent used to be and now is the attendant as well as what looks to be the original benches, some historical photos and information, and the large rest rooms. I did not think to take photos of it as we had seen it many times during our road trips north. In the 50's, Southern had two trains each way that stopped and the ACL had 3, plus many more that passed through.

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The Palmetto arrived while we were there. Two passengers off and one on. The friendly station attendant provides information to travelers, assists with boarding, and opens the station with its very nice interior and rest rooms.. Since she was not an Amtrak employee, she does not help with tickets or baggage. NC (and VA) are good supporters of passenger rail.


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I thought I remembered passing this interesting junction station on my last trip on the Star, but I was confused when I looked at Google Maps and it showed the Star not going there. Turns out that Google incorrectly shows the Star going directly from Raleigh to Wilson on Carolina Coastal Railway, instead of southeast to Selma via NS.
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