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Hello everyone I am new to this forum, thanks for having me! I just wanted some opinions about Amtrak vs Septa. I was recently offered a position within Amtrak as an LSA with training beginning in May. I was also offered a position within septa to be a Conductor/Engineer trainee, training date TBD. I ultimately want to be a conductor with Amtrak so would it be best to start as an LSA and bid up to an Amtrak Passenger Conductor trainee or sign on with Septa, complete the certification and try to transfer over? Please I can use all the input I can get, thank you!
 
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Speaking as a retired LSA, that is a tough question to answer as there are pros and cons to both. It is probably slightly more advantageous to hire with Amtrak now and then after a year ( minimum waiting time to change crafts) apply to become a conductor. I say this only because then you will be very familiar Amtrak operations and will make the transition easier.
 

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Hello everyone I am new to this forum, thanks for having me! I just wanted some opinions about Amtrak vs Septa. I was recently offered a position within Amtrak as an LSA with training beginning in May. I was also offered a position within septa to be a Conductor/Engineer trainee, training date TBD. I ultimately want to be a conductor with Amtrak so would it be best to start as an LSA and bid up to an Amtrak Passenger Conductor trainee or sign on with Septa, complete the certification and try to transfer over? Please I can use all the input I can get, thank you!

Take the LSA job. People are running from Septa as fast as they can these days. I've lost count of how many Septa guys are in the Philly crew base these days let alone Amtrak.
 

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Speaking as a retired LSA, that is a tough question to answer as there are pros and cons to both. It is probably slightly more advantageous to hire with Amtrak now and then after a year ( minimum waiting time to change crafts) apply to become a conductor. I say this only because then you will be very familiar Amtrak operations and will make the transition easier.
I understand that changing from OBS crafts to T&E crafts would effectively mean you are “starting from scratch”, as far as bidding seniority goes (different union’s); but do any corporate longevity benefits carry over?
 

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Yes for RRB and I think vacation.
Yes, RRB carries over even to different railroads, just as Social Security does between different non-rail jobs. If they count total Company longevity for accrued vacation and/or sick leave time, that would be a plus. I had thought each individual union contract would define that…
 
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Take the LSA job. People are running from Septa as fast as they can these days. I've lost count of how many Septa guys are in the Philly crew base these days let alone Amtrak.
Thanks Acela150 I read one of your older posts about you working for Septa and was hoping you’d respond. I wanted to PM you but I’m new and don’t know my way around yet lol. Thanks everyone for getting back to me. I have a close friend who has been an LSA for 10 years so I understand a lot of the pros and cons of both but not all. At this point hiring on with Amtrak seems like the better bet so I’m almost certain that’s what I will choose.
 

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Thanks Acela150 I read one of your older posts about you working for Septa and was hoping you’d respond. I wanted to PM you but I’m new and don’t know my way around yet lol. Thanks everyone for getting back to me. I have a close friend who has been an LSA for 10 years so I understand a lot of the pros and cons of both but not all. At this point hiring on with Amtrak seems like the better bet so I’m almost certain that’s what I will choose.

Feel free to drop me a PM at anytime with any questions. :)
 

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Thanks Acela150 I read one of your older posts about you working for Septa and was hoping you’d respond. I wanted to PM you but I’m new and don’t know my way around yet lol. Thanks everyone for getting back to me. I have a close friend who has been an LSA for 10 years so I understand a lot of the pros and cons of both but not all. At this point hiring on with Amtrak seems like the better bet so I’m almost certain that’s what I will choose.
Re PMing someone. You should an envelope icon at the top right of the screen. Click on that and choose Start New Conversation. Then type Acela150 in the recipients box and your message in the big box
 
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