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n3rdg1rl

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Thank you for your suggestions. It's my sister's first time on Amtrak but it's my.... who knows...over 20 years of riding.... I was just mainly confused about why the site wasn't showing NOR as the southern terminus.
 

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Thank you for your suggestions. It's my sister's first time on Amtrak but it's my.... who knows...over 20 years of riding.... I was just mainly confused about why the site wasn't showing NOR as the southern terminus.
It's NOL, not NOR ;)

I wonder if Baltimore would be closer for her than Wilmington. Not that I don't think Wilmington is a great station (it's my home station). :)
 

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Yes, we won't be in Oklahoma. LOL!!! I was looking to see if Baltimore was closer. But no, that annoying water in the way causes it to be father and more expensive. I have only gone into WIL once myself and I remember it wasn't bad, but my home station of CLE isn't anything to write home about. LOL!
 

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In that case, I think you will need to study the Flex menu carefully and also compare it to the cafe menu to decide what you want to eat on this trip and you should take an ample supply of snacks in case there is a shortage of items or few items that you find satisfactory.

As I understand it the Crescent has no lounge car. I do not know if the cafe car serves as a lounge car for sleeping car and coach passengers or if they are allowed to remain in the car only when dining. I understand from Tincan's post that coach passengers are not allowed in the cafe car while meals are being served to sleeping car passengers. So if you are a sleeping car passenger you may be largely confined to your room and if you are a coach passenger you may be pretty well confined to your seat.

Oh, What, Oh What, would the late W. Graham Claytor, Jr. think about the current pathetic operation of his Crescent!
Rasputin: So glad to see someone else invoke the name W. Graham Claytor, Jr. He was, indeed, my railroad idol and would be so, so unhappy at the current operating status of "his" train. I had the rare opportunity of meeting Mr. Claytor twice: once as a passenger on the Crescent; and a second time when he attended a court hearing in Palatka FL when Putnam County Florida hauled Amtrak into court there for dumping waste on a couple of fishermen in the St. John's River.
 

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Yes, we won't be in Oklahoma. LOL!!! I was looking to see if Baltimore was closer. But no, that annoying water in the way causes it to be father and more expensive. I have only gone into WIL once myself and I remember it wasn't bad, but my home station of CLE isn't anything to write home about. LOL!
Yeah that little bit of water 🤣 does get in the way, I imagine. I haven't crossed it in a long time. I do occasionally cross the mouth of the big river that feeds it, though.
 

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I don’t know, if this is her first experience, maybe it should not be the Crescent, I was so disappointed the last time I rode it in 2021, I’d rather ride in a car all the way to NJ and I hate long car rides with a passion.
cassie225: With all due respect to Amtrak and with service levels on some, most, or even all long distance trains at what may be a 50+ year low point, what train should one be recommending to a new rider? Is there one out there that experiencing the least service issues? Maybe some of the regular forum contributors have an opinion. I don't know.
 

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I don’t know, if this is her first experience, maybe it should not be the Crescent, I was so disappointed the last time I rode it in 2021, I’d rather ride in a car all the way to NJ and I hate long car rides with a passion.
I would have loved to start out of CLE and go west but she just did the drive here twice so it's my turn to go over there. And again, time constraints for her so the extra day to come west for her doesn't work right now. If she didn't hate Florida we would have probably taken the Silver South. No one wants to go North in Feb so that leaves the Crescent. I can only hope things improve over the next 6 months.
 

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Maybe because my first train ride was on the Crescent and that was coach and it was fabulous, I packed chicken, pound cake, snacks and the attendant was awesome as I had my disabled daughter with me, then I found out about the sleepers and those experiences were awesome and great and now to have the Crescent just be like it is, maybe I’m a wee bit jealous of the western routes, lol, I can’t brag on my Crescent anymore, lol,if you and your sister are close you both will probably just enjoy the time together. Have a great trip
 

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Something is happening south of ATL 19 & 20 running close to schedule last 2 weeks. The 3 major potential delay locations are not causing as many prroblems. MEI where KCS speedway joins: BHM = CSX both in and out of starion. & ATL at CSX Howell CP.
 
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In that case, I think you will need to study the Flex menu carefully and also compare it to the cafe menu to decide what you want to eat on this trip and you should take an ample supply of snacks in case there is a shortage of items or few items that you find satisfactory.

As I understand it the Crescent has no lounge car. I do not know if the cafe car serves as a lounge car for sleeping car and coach passengers or if they are allowed to remain in the car only when dining. I understand from Tincan's post that coach passengers are not allowed in the cafe car while meals are being served to sleeping car passengers. So if you are a sleeping car passenger you may be largely confined to your room and if you are a coach passenger you may be pretty well confined to your seat.

Oh, What, Oh What, would the late W. Graham Claytor, Jr. think about the current pathetic operation of his Crescent!
Amtrak is simply going in the wrong direction!
 
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In that case, I think you will need to study the Flex menu carefully and also compare it to the cafe menu to decide what you want to eat on this trip and you should take an ample supply of snacks in case there is a shortage of items or few items that you find satisfactory.

As I understand it the Crescent has no lounge car. I do not know if the cafe car serves as a lounge car for sleeping car and coach passengers or if they are allowed to remain in the car only when dining. I understand from Tincan's post that coach passengers are not allowed in the cafe car while meals are being served to sleeping car passengers. So if you are a sleeping car passenger you may be largely confined to your room and if you are a coach passenger you may be pretty well confined to your seat.

Oh, What, Oh What, would the late W. Graham Claytor, Jr. think about the current pathetic operation of his Crescent!
The Crescent never had a separate cafe car and lounge car. It has always been just one car.
 
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The Crescent never had a separate cafe car and lounge car. It has always been just one car.
Are sleeping car and?or coach passengers allowed to spend leisure time in the cafe car or only when they are actively eating? My impression is that on the Crescent you see a lot of the inside of your room.

My recollection is that about 8 or 10 years ago on the Crescent, my son and I, after dinner in the dining car, spent several hours in conversation in the cafe car. I am not sure that we would be allowed to occupy the cafe car in a similar manner today. (Unless I suppose we were disguised as crew members and then of course there would be no limitations.)
 

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Rasputin: So glad to see someone else invoke the name W. Graham Claytor, Jr. He was, indeed, my railroad idol and would be so, so unhappy at the current operating status of "his" train. I had the rare opportunity of meeting Mr. Claytor twice: once as a passenger on the Crescent; and a second time when he attended a court hearing in Palatka FL when Putnam County Florida hauled Amtrak into court there for dumping waste on a couple of fishermen in the St. John's River.
Wasn't that the same incident that led to a ban on dump toilets?
 

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That was the beginning of that, yes. I couldn't even imagine..... >_<
The incident to which I referred in Palatka FL I think was 30+ years ago in December 1989. Amtrak was found guilty of "commercial littering", but how this incident played in future issues of waste dumping is unknown to me. I only remember the incident because it was big news locally (I lived in Daytona Beach FL at the time) and I attended one day of the trial.
 

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The incident to which I referred in Palatka FL I think was 30+ years ago in December 1989. Amtrak was found guilty of "commercial littering", but how this incident played in future issues of waste dumping is unknown to me. I only remember the incident because it was big news locally (I lived in Daytona Beach FL at the time) and I attended one day of the trial.
Yep, this was the incident:
[I was trying to recall if the particular incident had been a few years later.]
 

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Anderson: Trying to stay on point of this thread, but thank you for referencing the above link with all those details. Yes, I was there (not on the specific day of the incident) as Buffalo Bluff Creek trestle on the St. John's River was a favorite place of mine to watch Amtrak (from my truck on land)--especially the Meteor. I can remember several instances for months after the incident: if you had a scanner tuned to Amtrak road channel when the Meteor passed over the trestle, you might hear the crew "bombs away!!".
 
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