I'll let the San Joaquin Joint Powers Authority (SJJPA) explain that in their own words.Any news why they're unpopular?
Source: San Joaquin Joint Powers Authority Business Plan June 2014While use of the Comet Car trainset does increase the seating capacity of the San Joaquin service, there are some potential negative aspects to having single-level Comet Car trainsets deployed, including; high-level boarding (which requires all passengers to climb a steep set of stairs), narrow doors that are manually opened, use of a manually cranked wheelchair lift at all stations, bike storage and large luggage stored in separate baggage cars, and costs associated with additional train attendants and maintenance. SJJPA has submitted formal comments to Caltrans raising concerns regarding these aspects of the Comet Car trainsets, as the SJJPA believes they could threaten the future success of the San Joaquin service. SJJPA will continue working to get written commitments from Caltrans that if the Comet Car trainset does not lead to increased ridership and revenue, the equipment will be removed from service and replaced with shorter trains made up of the existing bi-level equipment.
I always thought Californians were tougher than Midwesterners. But apparently not.... there are some potential negative aspects to having single-level Comet Car trainsets deployed, including; high-level boarding (which requires all passengers to climb a steep set of stairs), narrow doors that are manually opened, use of a manually cranked wheelchair lift at all stations,
Sounds like a good deal to me, not something to complain about.bike storage and large luggage stored in separate baggage cars,
While the Comet Cars are older and require walking up a set of stairs... I personally think the seating is MUCH more comfortable than the non-reclining seats on the California Cars.FRACK. I'm on 715 on the 25th, I surely don't want to be sitting in a Comet going up the Valley. Cali-Amtrak NOT being nice to me with my travel options this month.
It's been sort of back and forth between a few runs in the last few months. The last I heard (Sunday) the Comet cars were running on 712/717 turn. Last month, during the thanksgiving holiday rush they were on the 718/711 turn.
There are supposed to be two Comet car trainsets, but only one seems to be up and running at the moment. Not sure if that's due to technical difficulties, push back from riders/politicians along the San Joaquin (the Comet cars aren't very popular) or a combination of both.
Wish I could help more... but I moved out of Fresno last year and don't get to trainspot on the San Joaquin as often.
Source10. San Joaquin Rolling Stock Update
Brian Schmidt reiterated what Ms. Mortensen said, that Caltrans has directed Amtrak to remove the Comet Cars from regular service. He said, however, that removing them from service and not having them operate at all are two different things. Mr. Schmidt said that the State is not looking to “mothball” the Comet Cars trainsets. He said that they would be using them for high-ridership periods, and as emergency equipment (if bi- level trainset couldn’t go out they could use the Comet Car trainset as a replacement), he said also when they had a lot of overhauls a Comet Car trainset might be utilized. Vice Chair Perea asked “Everywhere? Surfliners? Capitols?” Mr. Schmidt replied “Everywhere”.
Mr. Schmidt said that now the Comet Cars are part of the Northern California fleet, but in the future they would also be used down south. He said that if a Capitol Corridor train went out of service, then a Comet Car trainset would be used to replace that train. Mr. Schmidt said there is also discussion of one of the Comet Car trainsets going to the Surfliners to replace a single-level Horizon Car trainset which is being leased from Amtrak. He said that this could result in a cost savings for the State. He said that there are a lot of discussions going on about how best to utilize the Comet Cars to best serve the State. Mr. Schmidt reiterated that the Comet Cars would go to whichever service needed equipment.
Nope, sorry.Anyone happen to know the current Comet runs on the San Joaquins?
Sorry for that. I didn't want to open a new thread on the same topic, but I did resurrect this one from the dead.Nope, sorry.
On a different note, I thought this thread was new and was reading and thought it was all recently posted till I saw someone talking about new bi-levels that are supposed to be put into service into 2015. Then, I looked at the date.
Thanks!!718 and 713 currently