High fares and sell-outs on Cascades

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Willbridge

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Here's a look at PDX>SEA and PDX>SPK for Sunday, December 11. Gas prices are easing and we're in the low gap between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Nevertheless, trains are selling out.

Here's the PDX to SEA line-up as of Wednesday night:
0800 FB $29
0820 AT $66/SO
1020 FB $39
1045 GL $26
1200 AT SO/SO
1230 FB $31
1500 FB $31
1556 AT SO/$87/$206
1845 FB $31
1925 AT $59/$87
2320 GL $26

And here's PDX to SPK:
0800 FB $52 via Seattle
0820 AT SO/SO/SO chng at Seattle
1645 AT $58/--/$183

AT = Amtrak Coach/Business/Sleeper, FB = Flixbus includes service charge rounded, GL = Greyhound Lines.
SO = Sold Out.

Note: There is no through PDX<>VAC train as of yet. The 0820, 1200, and 1556 train departures from PDX enjoy bus connections in SEA to VAC.

Note: Greyhound Lines discontinued PDX<>SPK connections in Nov 2022. Travel on GL requires an overnight layover in Pasco or Seattle.
 

Willbridge

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Here's a look at PDX>SEA and PDX>SPK for Sunday, January 29th. We're entering the really low gap called February. Nevertheless, trains are selling out.

Here's the PDX to SEA line-up as of Wednesday night:
0800 FB $29
0820 AT $66/SO
1020 FB $29
1045 GL $27
1200 AT SO/SO
1230 FB $29
1500 FB $34
1556 AT SO/--/$206
1845 FB $34
1925 AT $66/SO
2320 GL Discontinued!

And here's PDX to SPK:
0800 FB $61 via Seattle
0950 GL $51 chng at Pasco
0820 AT $193/--/$249 chng at Seattle
1645 AT $58/--/$183

AT = Amtrak Coach/Business/Sleeper, FB = Flixbus includes service charge rounded, GL = Greyhound Lines.
SO = Sold Out.

Note: There is no through PDX<>VAC train as of yet. The 0820, 1200, and 1556 train departures from PDX enjoy bus connections in SEA to VAC.
 

Anderson

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So, one of the problems is that when Amtrak provided replacement equipment, they didn't quite provide enough equipment, and the result is the Cascades running with about one or two cars less space than they have traditionally had.
 

danasgoodstuff

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Septa9739

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With demand far outpacing availability, it seems obvious that Amtrak should send more equipment out. With Horizon’s so tight until this whole Venture situation works itself out, maybe Amfleet 1‘s could get sent out. There seem to still be enough of them. More trains is only going to shift the problem along because ridership jumps with each new frequency because the whole line becomes a better service. It’s annoying the ridership is still so low despite sellouts and NEC high fares.
 

GDRRiley

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There were four horizons on todays #3 arrival into LA. I think they're probably for the Surfliner, but maybe they'll be sent up to the PNW?
That seems strange. I would have expected to go via the empire builder if they were for Cascade. Did you happen to get any road numbers? they could be the cafe cars California was using with Arrows.
 

Cal

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That seems strange. I would have expected to go via the empire builder if they were for Cascade. Did you happen to get any road numbers? they could be the cafe cars California was using with Arrows.
I didn't, I just saw them on the Winslow cam last night.
 
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