Another change of plans pushing back inaguration of service to Grand Central Madison, possibly by several months...
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LIRR Service to Grand Central
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Delayed: Grand Central Madison will not open in 2022, MTA says
NEW YORK (PIX11) — Grand Central Madison, which was set to open on Manhattan’s east side before the end of the year, won’t open in 2022, transit officials confirmed Thursday. A new open…
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FINALLY!!!!!!
The Long Island Rail Road will run its first passenger trains to its new Manhattan home, Grand Central Madison, on Wednesday morning.
The opening of the 700,000-square-foot station, announced by MTA officials on Monday evening, will mark the culmination of nearly six decades of planning, as well as more than 15 years of construction of the $11.1 billion East Side Access megaproject.
“The first train is scheduled to originate at Jamaica at 10:45 a.m. and run express to Grand Central Madison where it is scheduled to arrive at 11:07 a.m.,” the LIRR said in a statement.
LIRR Grand Central Madison service to begin on Wednesday
The Long Island Rail Road will begin running trains into the long-awaited station with limited shuttle service from Jamaica, the MTA announced. The first train into Grand Central Madison will depart Jamaica at 10:45 a.m. Wednesday.
www.newsday.com
The Long Island Rail Road will run its first passenger trains to its new Manhattan home, Grand Central Madison, on Wednesday morning.
The opening of the 700,000-square-foot station, announced by MTA officials on Monday evening, will mark the culmination of nearly six decades of planning, as well as more than 15 years of construction of the $11.1 billion East Side Access megaproject.
“The first train is scheduled to originate at Jamaica at 10:45 a.m. and run express to Grand Central Madison where it is scheduled to arrive at 11:07 a.m.,” the LIRR said in a statement.
Looks like this is the just the limited shuttle service that they first intended to start in December. I wasn't able to read any further before the paywall popped up.FINALLY!!!!!!
LIRR Grand Central Madison service to begin on Wednesday
The Long Island Rail Road will begin running trains into the long-awaited station with limited shuttle service from Jamaica, the MTA announced. The first train into Grand Central Madison will depart Jamaica at 10:45 a.m. Wednesday.www.newsday.com
The Long Island Rail Road will run its first passenger trains to its new Manhattan home, Grand Central Madison, on Wednesday morning.
The opening of the 700,000-square-foot station, announced by MTA officials on Monday evening, will mark the culmination of nearly six decades of planning, as well as more than 15 years of construction of the $11.1 billion East Side Access megaproject.
“The first train is scheduled to originate at Jamaica at 10:45 a.m. and run express to Grand Central Madison where it is scheduled to arrive at 11:07 a.m.,” the LIRR said in a statement.
ETA: Here's an article in the Post (with some pretty pictures) that doesn't appear to be paywalled:
Grand Central’s LIRR terminal to finally open Wednesday with limited shuttle service
The first LIRR trains will run to Grand Central on Wednesday a whopping 15 years after construction on the $11.6 billion project to connect the railway to major transit hub began.
nypost.com
It says it will be at least 3 weeks before regular service begins.
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Rambling Robert
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My brother did engineering work on the East Side Access Project throughout its construction. Before that he worked for the MTA. He’s looking for work - haha.
IMHO Newsday is a far better paper than the NY Post. I delivered Newsday in Levittown from 1961 to 1965. But too bad about the paywall - Newsday is better than that! [I was able to access the Newsday article by copying the byline/NEWSDAY. It usually works.]
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My brother did engineering work on the East Side Access Project throughout its construction. Before that he worked for the MTA. He’s looking for work - haha.
IMHO Newsday is a far better paper than the NY Post. I delivered Newsday in Levittown from 1961 to 1965. But too bad about the paywall - Newsday is better than that! [I was able to access the Newsday article by copying the byline/NEWSDAY. It usually works.]
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The first reviews are positive
www.nbcnewyork.com
New LIRR Station Officially Opens at Grand Central Terminal: What to Know
For decades, work on a massive rail project has been grinding 15 stories below the shuffling footsteps of millions of New Yorkers and beneath the East Hudson River and Manhattan skyscrapers. After years of delays and massive cost overruns, the enormously expensive railway project shuttled its...
www.nbcnewyork.com
New York City Completes Construction on Latest American Transit Disaster
East Side Access is 60 years in the making, 14 years late, $7.5 billion over budget, and a curse on the agency that built it.
www.vice.com
Well, in defense of ESA, it took less time from proposal to opening than the Second Avenue Subway!
Anything you can name took less time than the 2nd Ave. Subway.
What is often lost in this picture is that the 63rd st tunnel construction began more than 50 years ago. There were many plan changes and reasons for stalling elements of the project, the subway level went into service, albeit in limited fashion, 30 + years ago. ESA was a reimagination of the original plan, although ultimately may be better.
They were going to build a new East Side Terminal near the UN
I think I'm split on this project.
At this point, non-car infrastructure of this scale getting finished is such a rarity (maybe once every two decades or so) that I'm glad it happened. Plus, this adds major system redundancy, which is something that America has a lot of trouble fathoming the importance of. The author does acknowledge this, but I don't think he grasps just how crucial it is for the country's busiest railroad to have a second way into NYC.
OTOH, just about every aspect of this project, from planning, to execution, to opening, is embarrassing.
All that said, once these projects get finished, public memory of how bad they are lasts anywhere from 5-10 years. After that, people are just glad the infrastructure exists in the first place.
At this point, non-car infrastructure of this scale getting finished is such a rarity (maybe once every two decades or so) that I'm glad it happened. Plus, this adds major system redundancy, which is something that America has a lot of trouble fathoming the importance of. The author does acknowledge this, but I don't think he grasps just how crucial it is for the country's busiest railroad to have a second way into NYC.
OTOH, just about every aspect of this project, from planning, to execution, to opening, is embarrassing.
All that said, once these projects get finished, public memory of how bad they are lasts anywhere from 5-10 years. After that, people are just glad the infrastructure exists in the first place.
Shawn Ryu
Conductor
Does anyone know why they built pretty much separate station deep down rather than using tracks at actual Grand Central station
Good summary at Grand Central Madison station - Wikipedia, and much more detail in the quoted references.
I'm not an expert, but I suspect it would have been far harder to bring tracks under the East river and connect to the essentially ground level tracks and one level down tracks at GCT. And even without Amtrak or the 20th Century Limited, they get pretty busy at rush hour.
I'm not an expert, but I suspect it would have been far harder to bring tracks under the East river and connect to the essentially ground level tracks and one level down tracks at GCT. And even without Amtrak or the 20th Century Limited, they get pretty busy at rush hour.
That and Metro North is very protective of their tracks and slots, among other things.
And they have different third rail shoe configuration and I believe some signaling differences as well.
And there is no spare capacity during rush hours in the classic Grand Central.
Thirdrail7
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More than 20% of LIRR trains can’t run in Grand Central Madison tunnel
More than 20% of LIRR trains can’t run in Grand Central Madison tunnel
The short height of the East River tunnel and the MTA's failure to order new LIRR rail cars have caused headaches for riders since the new terminal opened.
gothamist.com
This is why they couldn't modify the existing tunnel to fit the train of today.
I knew the diesel fleet couldn't fit, but what is wrong with the M3s?
Is it a big deal that only a quarter-ish of their fleet can't run through those tunnels though? Yes, it's an obvious inconvenience, but out of their many major terminals don't they have adequate equipment for service to this one major station?
Dutchrailnut
Conductor
The M-3's are restricted from GCT Madison due to incompatibility with the ACSES used in new Terminal and its approaches.
With M-9's still being delivered the M-3 problem slowly disappears.
With M-9's still being delivered the M-3 problem slowly disappears.
