New Siemens Charger locomotive

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Video by Adam Ghimenti from yesterday showing four Chargers, including the Amtrak ALC-42, outside the Siemens facility at Sacramento.

 
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they show a DEF tank in the specs, so I would say they likely do......in the list of differences between the corridor models and the Amtrak LD versions larger fuel and DEF tanks and a bigger sand box are main items...
Oh...ok thanks guys for letting me know. I thought I heard somewhere that they didn't need Urea, especially compared to the F125 locomotive that Metrolink purchased. Where the Chargers are concerned: I think it would of been better if the extended the front windsheilds all the way towards edges. For better visibility.
 

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Amtrak stated ages ago, that the first few Chargers that rolled off the line would have a temporary paint scheme applied to them... this is what you're seeing (It's missing the red, which I presume will be a sticker)

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I am opposed to dark colors on trains. Winter conditions the cars radiate heat more to the outside making it feel colder inside and summer conditions the sun can do a real heat it up job. Ask persons who experienced dome cars in the summer. Turn off the HEP and the cars loose comfortable temps quicker. It applies to airplanes also as I have experienced it first hand..
 
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I like best, stainless steel on trains. And polished aluminum on planes. Unfortunately the newer aircraft with composite skin, must be painted...
The Burlington at one time even had stainless steel on their locomotives, the unique E-5's to match their Zephyr consists...
 

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Boeing & MD used to do a pretty good job of "matching" the aluminum for appearance, Airbus was not as interested in that, and the A-300s that AA put into service sort of ended it for them. The Fokker 100 was partial, but I'm not sure too many people noticed them....
 

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Boeing & MD used to do a pretty good job of "matching" the aluminum for appearance, Airbus was not as interested in that, and the A-300s that AA put into service sort of ended it for them. The Fokker 100 was partial, but I'm not sure too many people noticed them....
That was due to composite structures used in the A300 series. They wouldn't have been able to achieve a full polished aluminum look.

Both the 787 and A350 have fully composite fuselage, so I don't think we'll ever see the polished aluminum look again.
 

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I am opposed to dark colors on trains. Winter conditions the cars radiate heat more to the outside making it feel colder inside and summer conditions the sun can do a real heat it up job. Ask persons who experienced dome cars in the summer. Turn off the HEP and the cars loose comfortable temps quicker. It applies to airplanes also as I have experienced it first hand..
What? You managed to hitch a ride on Hugh Heffner's black plane? 😬
 

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Airbus also had the challenge of fabricating sections in multiple locations and assembling them at another point so even the aluminum sections would be a daunting challenge...A-300 composite use was predominantly in the tail fin, but it would have looked bad if left bare with only the tail painted..
 

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Boeing & MD used to do a pretty good job of "matching" the aluminum for appearance, Airbus was not as interested in that, and the A-300s that AA put into service sort of ended it for them. The Fokker 100 was partial, but I'm not sure too many people noticed them....
I actually liked the little Fokkers. 😁 Only 8 F seats, but if you nailed an upgrade you had a good chance of a hot meal, unlike other similar size planes which had only a cold galley.

Also, in 2 million miles of flying, my only touch, then take-off again due to "traffic" on the runway. They could climb... fast!
 
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I never saw an AA Fokker that way, only in mostly polished aluminum with painted tail and engine nacelles. Only flew on once, and on an Alleghany F-28 it predecessor once. Both better than the BAC-111 I rode once or twice. Anyway, we should get back to the real topic, or move this, we are drifting (and I am guilty)
 

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Airbus also had the challenge of fabricating sections in multiple locations and assembling them at another point so even the aluminum sections would be a daunting challenge...A-300 composite use was predominantly in the tail fin, but it would have looked bad if left bare with only the tail painted..
Eventually AA found a way for the A300 to have a metallic finish.
 

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After so many years of Amtrak's second "rainbow era" with Phase V locomotives, Phase III Viewliner II cars, and Phase VI Superliners and Amfleet... I'm hoping that Phase VII will be a return to a more consistent look.
 
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