Nice that they have an ICRR heritage unit...but why, oh why, couldn't they have done it up in the chocolate, and orange scheme?Except on the brand new IC heritage unit, seen here west of Toronto, courtesy of Railpictures.ca.
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So they missed an advertising opportunity to say their railroad is "the most scenic in the world!"When CN purchased IC, the initial logo was CN/IC or CNIC. But that didn't last long. The logo on locomotives, new rolling stock, and correspondence is now merely CN.
Well, for one thing, the chocolate and orange was only used on passenger units. IC's freight locos -- including the Geeps used in passenger service -- were always in black and white. During the ICG era, freight locos showed up in orange and white.Nice that they have an ICRR heritage unit...but why, oh why, couldn't they have done it up in the chocolate, and orange scheme?
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You're absolutely correct of course, historically speaking, but still....Well, for one thing, the chocolate and orange was only used on passenger units. IC's freight locos -- including the Geeps used in passenger service -- were always in black and white. During the ICG era, freight locos showed up in orange and white.
Woah--I saw that one or another one just like that a few weeks ago just sitting at an old EJ&E highway crossing in Grundy County, IL. I've seen it twice now. CN owns the "J" now, so that makes sense, but I didn't know it was a new heritage unit. That's nice!Except on the brand new IC heritage unit, seen here west of Toronto, courtesy of Railpictures.ca.
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The BC Rail one is sharp. Very reminiscent of the first Amtrak scheme on their P32's (the "Pepsi Can" livery, only less gaudy) and I think it would look good pulling a long consist of those new Midwest Siemens coaches.On my last trip in Michigan in January I accidentally bumped into the BC Rail one twas a great snowy chase.
After hearing how the Chargers did this last year I wouldn't be surprised if we see that happen at some point.The BC Rail one is sharp. Very reminiscent of the first Amtrak scheme on their P32's (the "Pepsi Can" livery, only less gaudy) and I think it would look good pulling a long consist of those new Midwest Siemens coaches.
Subject for another day, but I have wondered if both Amtrak and VIA will soon be looking for a non-Siemens long-distance locomotive from a "traditional" supplier.After hearing how the Chargers did this last year I wouldn't be surprised if we see that happen at some point.
That's great! I've missed seeing that logo.If you like the "J", watch for this one:
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Didn't know that--but it's nice to hear.CN recently unveiled a number of heritage units, including IC, EJ&E, GTW, Wisconsin Central.
While your idea may have merit, let's face it, Amtrak has no intention of adding new overnight trains. They've proven it with this proposed map, and if given a choice, they would eliminated most of those currently in service.Going back to the original post: I don't think there would be enough business to justify a train from Kansas City to New Orleans, but I think if the train began in Denver, it would do much better. I have an idea for a Denver-Kansas City overnight train, but on the other side it is a Kansas City-New Orleans daytime train.
If you want that, and I do, extend the Cardinal to Denver, and have a connection to the City of New Orleans. The Cardinal should definitely have a St Louis/Kansas City section. Kansas City to Denver would be a natural extension. Essentially on the schedule of the old City of St Louis. An overnight train from Denver to Kansas City would be a winner, and could provide Kansas residents in Manhattan and Topeka a morning run into Kansas City and an evening return.Going back to the original post: I don't think there would be enough business to justify a train from Kansas City to New Orleans, but I think if the train began in Denver, it would do much better. I have an idea for a Denver-Kansas City overnight train, but on the other side it is a Kansas City-New Orleans daytime train.
Great post, I either never heard of the River Cities or I forgot about it over the years.Kansas City to New Orleans train? Where have I heard that before? Hmmmm....let's see....oh yeah....
just kidding, guys...I know it's not what is being proposed here. But here's a thought for Denver - Kansas City...how about just a connection to the Chief at La Junta, serving Colorado Springs, and Pueblo?
I would love to see the Desert Wind (as well as the Pioneer) brought back. As for a less "roundabout" route, if they ran a connection to the Chief at Trinidad instead (or in addition to) La Junta, that routing might be faster Denver to Los Angeles than the Desert Wind would....Great post, I either never heard of the River Cities or I forgot about it over the years.
I would definitely support a connection to the Chief, but I got to thinking: To get better service between Denver and Los Angeles, it would make a lot more sense to just revive the Desert Wind rather than taking that roundabout route.
In my opinion, it would be best to reinstate the Pioneer and the Desert Wind. The cities served by these trains have gotten a lot bigger since they were discontinued.I would love to see the Desert Wind (as well as the Pioneer) brought back. As for a less "roundabout" route, if they ran a connection to the Chief at Trinidad instead (or in addition to) La Junta, that routing might be faster Denver to Los Angeles than the Desert Wind would....