Southwest Chief #3 and #4 in New Mexico Service Disruption

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Speaking of guaranteed connections, it would appear that those passengers holding bedroom tickets for the Coast Starlight will most likely be SOL assuming that Amtrak doesn’t add extra sleepers to the train to accommodate them.
Well the LA yards have almost 24 hours to think of that as the two 3s won't be getting in till 8PM. At least passengers should be able to get on a southbound Surfliner service.
 

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I wonder why the didn't bus bridge between Albuquerque and Winslow or Flagstaff? That has been their usual response in the past when lines have been unexpectedly closed.

It would have been much less disruptive.
 

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I wonder why the didn't bus bridge between Albuquerque and Winslow or Flagstaff? That has been their usual response in the past when lines have been unexpectedly closed.

It would have been much less disruptive.
Maybe they couldn't secure buses??
 

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It sounds like Amtrak is trying their best under the circumstances. But WOW, what a mess!!
 

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Are the platforms in LA long enough to accommodate TWO #3 trains coupled together?
Hah! Who cares? Now the Class 1s will probably not be able to put the Amtrak trains on the sidings. A great solution to get back at NS in the east - create a 100 car Amtrak train by pulling all the unused baggage cars and smashed but still running superliner/viewliner/heritage cars on the back end of the Crescent while inviting PV cars to attach for free just this once. :)
 
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Video of the doubled-up Southwest Chief at Colton, California by Incidents Media.

16 cars, right? Impressive nowadays, but the fact that the Silver Star and Silver Meteor used to routinely run out of New York with 18 cars, is all the more remarkable. Back then, the trains would split in Florida into Miami and St. Petersburg sections...
 

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16 cars, right? Impressive nowadays, but the fact that the Silver Star and Silver Meteor used to routinely run out of New York with 18 cars, is all the more remarkable. Back then, the trains would split in Florida into Miami and St. Petersburg sections...
I seem to remember years ago the combined Broadway / Cap Limited was a huge train to when it was combined from CHI to PGH before splitting into the NY and DC sections at Harrisburg or Pittsburgh. I don't think it was 18 cars though (and were the Silvers really that long?).

I don't remember the details other than, oddly, the train numbers, which were 40/41 (NY) and 440/441 (DC).
 

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I believe silvers and other trains added cars at either PHL and / or WASH to flesh out the trains. Isn't NYP limited to 14 or 15 cars without fouling CPs at one end or other ?
Guess one of the P42s had no problem providing enough HEP even to the 2 PV cars. ?
 

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Guess one of the P42s had no problem providing enough HEP even to the 2 PV cars. ?
Two P40's (that I believe are now identical to P42s) can supply enough HEP for the Auto Train, so I doubt this would be an issue.
 

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Sorry only one P-40 is needed to provide HEP to Auto train. There is no way to parallel 2 locos. The P-40s had their HEP upgraded to what I believe is 1000Kw.each. That is same as each HEP unit in ACS-64s. Also in the new Siemens Chargers such as #300.
 
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I believe silvers and other trains added cars at either PHL and / or WASH to flesh out the trains. Isn't NYP limited to 14 or 15 cars without fouling CPs at one end or other ?
Guess one of the P42s had no problem providing enough HEP even to the 2 PV cars. ?
Or F40s as the case may have been back then. I doubt there were that many 18 car Florida trains after 1992. Most of the really long trains were pre-HEP, so supplying HEP was not an issue. Supplying Steam was more important :)
 
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I believe silvers and other trains added cars at either PHL and / or WASH to flesh out the trains. Isn't NYP limited to 14 or 15 cars without fouling CPs at one end or other ?
Guess one of the P42s had no problem providing enough HEP even to the 2 PV cars. ?
I believe that at NYP, the platforms for tracks 9&10, 11&12, and 13&14 can handle 18 cars. The trains that long were pulled by two GG-1's or one E60 between New York and Washington. No cars were added enroute to the Silver's. The seasonal Florida Special was a shorter train, and it added a dome sleeper at Richmond.
 
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I seem to remember years ago the combined Broadway / Cap Limited was a huge train to when it was combined from CHI to PGH before splitting into the NY and DC sections at Harrisburg or Pittsburgh. I don't think it was 18 cars though (and were the Silvers really that long?).

I don't remember the details other than, oddly, the train numbers, which were 40/41 (NY) and 440/441 (DC).
The Capitol Limited name was revived, when the Washington cars split at Pittsburgh, since the train brought back the historic B&O route. The Broadway split off Washington cars at Harrisburg, and later, at 30th Street Station, Philadelphia. The early Broadway did not regularly have 18 cars, but they could have during peak seasons if necessary. I believe the Silver's regularly had that many during the peak winter season.
 
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