Sumitomo and Siemens Venture evolution, development and deployment (2012-2023)

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PerRock

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More great news! First my (adopted state) Cardinal gets a VL2 sleeper, and then my (native state) Wolverine gets a new Siemens train set!

No business class though yet, right?

The Wolverine is running a coach car for Business class. The current consist is: Charger, Venture, AmCafe, Venture x4, Charger.

Here is a picture I took of it on it's inaugural run.

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jamess

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I agree. My previous Blackberry and current Samsung have magnetized cases and don't seem to have any problems.

Laptop hard drivers are the same old tech theyve always been that can be destroyed by magnets easily. Cell phones have never used those.
 

Anthony V

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From what I've read in recent posts on this thread, it sounds like at least one trainset (with the exception of the Business Class/Café cars, which aren't available yet) on the Lincoln Service and Wolverine routes, are now using Venture rolling stock. I have a few questions about the Venture cars' current and future deployment. Do all the trainsets on the Lincoln Service and Wolverine routes now use Venture rolling stock? What is the current status of the Business Class/Café Venture cars? When is delivery and deployment of those types of venture cars expected to happen?
 

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Takes time to get enough to CHI then east coast for final fittings. Understand 8 either on way or are being set up?
They don't need to go to the east coast, fit-up is happening in Chicago. I believe all the coaches have been delivered at this point, it's just a matter of fixing the lead piping, ceiling panels & magnetic tables.

At some point in the future the two sets that are currently out in service, will need to be removed from service. As they didn't actually repair the tables, they just stuck a sign on them saying not to pull out the extensions.

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Finally it looks like the first Venture set is about to go into service in California on the San Joaquin Service...

nice means the comets will be removed from that line.
still wish they'd use comets or horizens to start a coast daylight
Will the Capital Corridor trains need to have their own discreet fleet ?
the vision plan calls for the capital corridor to have ~25 sets. If they change their stance on wires we could see pure EMUs, something like caltrains KISS but with a different interior or we may see a dual mode hydrogen with overhead electrification if they can only get wires up in some sections.
it seems unlikely but the state could just order a bunch new bi level coaches then just change the loco on the front based on route
 

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There is a discussion of the California FLIRTs here:


And here:


Please note that FLIRTs are single level. Stadler uses the name KISS for two level trains and I haven’t found anything but catenary EMU KISS trains.
 

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So this must go along with the rumor of the San Joaquin moving to the CHSR line when completed. No grade crossings.
its not being moved to CAHSR. the service will end at Merced.
CASHR could test with a venture set and AEM-7 from caltrain if they wanted to do 125mph testing before a high speed set came
 

jamess

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Does anyone know if the Venture set runs consistently on one of the frequencies? Will be in Fresno and would like to grab some photos of it.

Also, do they still have a 5 minute smoke break in Fresno where one might be able to jump in and off quickly?
 
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