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At least so far AFAICT, the "Schedule" tab in the Smartphone App does not lead you to any Schedule at all, so there is that too.It is mind boggling to me that a transportation company with only around 20 routes, the vast majority of which only run once per day, cannot provide a complete schedule of each route showing all stops along the way. Why on earth would they not maintain the PDF, printable schedules? It costs them nothing to do so; the schedules already exist. Their automated schedules are useless while actually on the LD trains in the vast stretches without wifi, and also useless if I don't already know exactly what station I want to board and what station I want to detrain. I swear Amtrak intentionally makes it difficult to plan trips using their service.
When I go to the Amtrak website and click on "schedules," I just get the option to look up a station-to-station trip. I do not get actual schedules anywhere. It is so frustrating, because I use those schedules to plan multi-leg trips, and I don't always know what stations are options on which routes.Only on the web interface does the Schedule tab lead to any schedule.
Click on the "Details" that shows up at each choice. It will show you the schedule for that choice. It is no substitute for getting a full time table, but at least the times at each station on the way is available.When I go to the Amtrak website and click on "schedules," I just get the option to look up a station-to-station trip. I do not get actual schedules anywhere. It is so frustrating, because I use those schedules to plan multi-leg trips, and I don't always know what stations are options on which routes.
I sent a reply to the Center of Excellence asking what if someone onboard a train with no wifi or cell service wants to know what time the train is scheduled to arrive at a station further down the line, or if someone wants to compare different routes and amenities. No answer yet.For most of my life I used the words "timetable" and "schedule" interchangeably, but I think that the use of "schedule" on the Amtrak web site means a selection of the alternatives available that travel between the original and destination point selected on the date selected. Thus, if I ask for a schedule between Baltimore to Chicago on a date that the Cardinal runs, I will get 3 possibilities: the usual NER/Capitol Limited, NER/Lakeshore Limited, and the Through train Cardinal. The "schedule" includes information and calling times for the connections, but no other information about the routes and the available accommodations for each leg of the journey. However, it gives no information about the route traveled, and someone making reservations might wonder why travel times range from 17 hours to 24 hours.
On the other hand, a "timetable" provides information about all of the stations along the route and allows one to compare trains and possible connections without having to constantly be pinging into the Amtrak reservation system. Aside from railfangeekiness, this is certainly helpful to people who are planning trips that involve connections between services that have multiple daily departures. It also helps potential passengers plan the dates of their trips by quickly showing differences in service on different days of the week, and such.
Sometimes I think that web pages are designed by people who have been taught that the ideal web page should force a user to stay connected and maximize the number of times a user accesses the web site. While I understand why someone might do this for content that sells ads based on the number of views, it's very frustrating for customers who just want to do their business giving their money to a company as quickly as possible. Nonetheless, most websites I've dealt with seem to operate on that design principle. I think someone needs to teach programmers that all the "bells and whistles" aren't necessarily a good thing.
You just might have crashed the Center of Excellence equivalent of the "WOPR (War Operations Plan Response supercomputer pronounced "whopper"") if you remember the movie "War Games"I sent a reply to the Center of Excellence asking what if someone onboard a train with no wifi or cell service wants to know what time the train is scheduled to arrive at a station further down the line, or if someone wants to compare different routes and amenities. No answer yet.
|New York, NY (NYP)||Dp 340P||Dp 340P On time.|
|Croton Harmon, NY (CRT)||Dp 426P||Dp 427P 1 minute late.|
|Poughkeepsie, NY (POU)||Dp 510P||Dp 525P 15 minutes late.|
|Rhinecliff, NY (RHI)||Dp 527P||Dp 544P 17 minutes late.|
|Albany Rensselaer, NY (ALB)||Ar 620P|
|Ar 627P 7 minutes late.|
Dp 730P 25 minutes late.
|Schenectady, NY (SDY)||Dp 733P||Dp 817P 44 minutes late.|
|Utica, NY (UCA)||Dp 849P||Dp 942P 53 minutes late.|
|Syracuse, NY (SYR)||Dp 952P||Dp 1045P 53 minutes late.|
|Rochester, NY (ROC)||Dp 1112P||Dp|
|Buffalo Depew, NY (BUF)||Ar 1212A|
|Erie, PA (ERI)||Dp 154A||Dp|
|Cleveland, OH (CLE)||Ar 333A|
|Elyria, OH (ELY)||Dp 418A||Dp|
|Sandusky, OH (SKY)||Dp 455A||Dp|
|Toledo, OH (TOL)||Ar 555A|
|Bryan, OH (BYN)||Dp 705A||Dp|
|Waterloo, IN (WTI)||Dp 733A||Dp|
|Elkhart, IN (EKH)||Dp 825A||Dp|
|South Bend, IN (SOB)||Dp 849A||Dp|
|Chicago, IL (CHI)||Ar 950A||Ar|
Great idea! I would happily pay eight dollars for a nicely done national schedule sold in stations or in the café car. Especially if they threw in some tourist info.A National timetable might have limited value for many passengers (unlike the individual route ones) but I believe there is marketing value in one - assuming Amtrak cares about marketing. Combine the old vacation guides with the timetable for each route discussed (so would be primarily for LD trains). Include advertising to defray costs or charge a modest fee and offer them in the SSL or cafe as well as stations. An on line one version would be free.
The Rail Passengers Association essentially does this already. Looks like they updated the Crescent timetable.I wonder how much trouble we would get in if we started making our own timetable and distributing it. I mean if Amtrak doesn't want to do it themselves and there is a need for it to be done why not let others do it. It wouldn't cost Amtrak anything, but it would provide them a good marketing tool for free. And the sad thing is most of us know the system better than the employees in Philly and DC.
They’re using pre-Covid timetables from Amtrak’s website. They’re not creating their own timetablesInteresting. I didn't know RPA did that. However some of the timetables are *way* out of date, for example Northeast Corridor is January 2nd, 2020. I would sure double check that with the Amtrak app before making any plans.
Not really. All that they do is place all the timetables Amtrak has published in PDF and place them in a single easily accessible place. If Amtrak does not pulish a timetable in PDF form RPA won;t have it in their collection either. What @Seaboard92 is talking about is creating the most recent timetables in PDF and distributing them, and that I what I was alluding to too.The Rail Passengers Association essentially does this already. Looks like they updated the Crescent timetable.
Yeah for 14 LD trains it could be handcrafted. The PDF template is already there to edit using a PDF Editor for all the 14 or so LD trains. But those are also the least interesting since you can print those off of the Schdule tab on amtrak.com. The really interesting ones are the hardest ones to keep updated.Well in theory as often as the schedules changes in the national network which really is not that frequent one person probably could do it with little issue. The bigger part is making the initial graphic. Then the corridors are a bit harder.
They are using the Crescent timetable I edited, and was shared by acelafan on juckins.netThe Rail Passengers Association essentially does this already. Looks like they updated the Crescent timetable.