I've been thinking the same thing every time I see a post about this on FB. I've even seen it on DelawareOnline and 6ABC. No mention, that I've seen, saying "don't do this at home". *SMH*I have to figure that Amtrak's safety people are not very happy about this.
I used to have the need to enter Amtrak's NEC right-of-way as part of my job. In order to do that I needed to attend annual Amtrak safety training, get an Amtrak contractor photo ID, wear approved Amtrak PPE, and even then if I needed to get within 25 feet of an active track, I needed an Amtrak safety person with me. I'm not sure how all that applies to a pizza delivery guy fulfilling an order.
I just took a look at some of the news stories. The article below shows a picture of the door being open and the steps being lowered. Even if this is an amfleet II I am pretty sure that a key needs to be used open the doors and drop the traps.
http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/newswires/new-york/pizza-delivery-man-takes-pie-stalled-amtrak-train-article-1.3167250
Amtrak apologized that its passengers were inconvenienced but said it was "extremely dangerous" for the deliveryman to approach a train on the tracks to deliver pizza.
"We are glad no one was hurt and hope this is not tried again in the future," the company said Monday in a statement.
Looks like just backyard fences, so he probably found a yard w/o a fence or one that was easy to climb, crawl through or whatever. You want me to go find the spot?I just saw this story on "Inside Edition". It showed the delivery person climbing down an embankment to reach the tracks.
That,eans he had to (I assume) climb thru a fence to even get to the ROW! Either he had to find a hole where the fence was cut, or he had to cut it himself. Is that really worth the $32 tip? :huh:
That is a stock photo....I just took a look at some of the news stories. The article below shows a picture of the door being open and the steps being lowered. Even if this is an amfleet II I am pretty sure that a key needs to be used open the doors and drop the traps.
http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/newswires/new-york/pizza-delivery-man-takes-pie-stalled-amtrak-train-article-1.3167250
It's easy to find your precise location with a smartphone.What strikes me as strange is that most people would be unable to give a precise location for the train.
They should have left everything closed and locked in order to force the pizza delivery guy to spend even more time walking around the ROW and risk ending up on the other side of the train while trying to make his delivery. That'd show him.Now IF a train crew member did open the door for this pizza guy, I would imagine that crew member is Out of Service, or will be.
You don't sound like a curious bystander. Instead you sound like some sort of fanatical authoritarian. If Amtrak PD does go after the pizza delivery guy I'll be happy to pitch in toward his legal fund. That ought to drag out the conclusion and help keep Amtrak in the news as the company that pressed charges for the crime of delivering food to their own broken down trains. Considering all the recent bad press and frayed nerves relating to passenger transportation it would probably be best for Amtrak to avoid direct legal confrontation and to use this event to simply remind passengers and delivery services that entering the ROW is potentially harmful or even fatal.Just cause I'm curious. Since the driver clearly trespassed on RR property. I just asked Amtrak on twitter if APD will attempt to go after to driver for trespassing.
I've been thinking the same thing every time I see a post about this on FB. I've even seen it on DelawareOnline and 6ABC. No mention, that I've seen, saying "don't do this at home". *SMH*
It's easy to find your precise location with a smartphone.What strikes me as strange is that most people would be unable to give a precise location for the train.
They should have left everything closed and locked in order to force the pizza delivery guy to spend even more time walking around the ROW and risk ending up on the other side of the train while trying to make his delivery. That'd show him.Now IF a train crew member did open the door for this pizza guy, I would imagine that crew member is Out of Service, or will be.
You don't sound like a curious bystander. Instead you sound like some sort of fanatical authoritarian. If Amtrak PD does go after the pizza delivery guy I'll be happy to pitch in toward his legal fund. That ought to drag out the conclusion and help keep Amtrak in the news as the company that pressed charges for the crime of delivering food to their own broken down trains. Considering all the recent bad press and frayed nerves relating to passenger transportation it would probably be best for Amtrak to avoid direct legal confrontation and to use this event to simply remind passengers and delivery services that entering the ROW is potentially harmful or even fatal.Just cause I'm curious. Since the driver clearly trespassed on RR property. I just asked Amtrak on twitter if APD will attempt to go after to driver for trespassing.
Working! North of WIL (not far from Fox Point).Hmmm....and where were YOU while all of this was going on?I've been thinking the same thing every time I see a post about this on FB. I've even seen it on DelawareOnline and 6ABC. No mention, that I've seen, saying "don't do this at home". *SMH*
Fair enough. I do see where both of you come from. I can agree with it. Since I clearly wasn't on the train. If the train still had HEP, which a guess says no, it makes one wonder why this fellow didn't head to the Yum Yum Car.I've been thinking the same thing every time I see a post about this on FB. I've even seen it on DelawareOnline and 6ABC. No mention, that I've seen, saying "don't do this at home". *SMH*
Hmmm....and where were YOU while all of this was going on?
It's easy to find your precise location with a smartphone.What strikes me as strange is that most people would be unable to give a precise location for the train.
They should have left everything closed and locked in order to force the pizza delivery guy to spend even more time walking around the ROW and risk ending up on the other side of the train while trying to make his delivery. That'd show him.Now IF a train crew member did open the door for this pizza guy, I would imagine that crew member is Out of Service, or will be.
You don't sound like a curious bystander. Instead you sound like some sort of fanatical authoritarian. If Amtrak PD does go after the pizza delivery guy I'll be happy to pitch in toward his legal fund. That ought to drag out the conclusion and help keep Amtrak in the news as the company that pressed charges for the crime of delivering food to their own broken down trains. Considering all the recent bad press and frayed nerves relating to passenger transportation it would probably be best for Amtrak to avoid direct legal confrontation and to use this event to simply remind passengers and delivery services that entering the ROW is potentially harmful or even fatal.Just cause I'm curious. Since the driver clearly trespassed on RR property. I just asked Amtrak on twitter if APD will attempt to go after to driver for trespassing.
I have to firmly agree with Devil's Advocate on this one. Even without the recent bad press, it's YOUR stranded train that made someone take this action. Going after the delivery person would seem vindictive and petty. This should be a teaching moment and a reminder.
Since some of you here seem to be overly eager to throw Amtrak employees under the bus, I won't go into details but on a recent trip my train was stuck for multiple hours in one spot, and after 2 hours of waiting, the conductor opened the door and let passengers out for fresh air to hang out on active* railroad track.I'm breaking ranks and saying if a member of the train participated and helped him, that only fault I find is that there wasn't enough pizza for everyone! I remember when conductors were AUTHORIZED to use service recovery in this manner.
** Acela150 was quoted, not me. The forum software sometimes attributes quotes to the wrong person**Since some of you here seem to be overly eager to throw Amtrak employees under the bus, I won't go into details but on a recent trip my train was stuck for multiple hours in one spot, and after 2 hours of waiting, the conductor opened the door and let passengers out for fresh air to hang out on active* railroad track.I'm breaking ranks and saying if a member of the train participated and helped him, that only fault I find is that there wasn't enough pizza for everyone! I remember when conductors were AUTHORIZED to use service recovery in this manner.
I enjoyed that unique opportunity, and instead of framing the staff, I contacted Customer Relations and put in a hearty appreciation for the staff (of course without mentioning what they did specifically!)
*"active" but not really active track because it was a passing siding and our train was blocking the switch that would allow any train to enter that track.
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