Is dining a deal-killer for us? Maybe...For the last ten years or so, we've taken LD trains on average twice a year--occasionally more, occasionally less. Always in sleepers. We don't have high expectations for food on a train, really. Just basically that there be healthy, palatable choices for all three meals, and with enough choice so that it isn't the same meal every time. That isn't asking a lot. And I agree that an expanded set of offerings in the cafe car could satisfy us, even though we will miss the experience of the dining car. But flex dining is making us reconsider how often and whether we travel by LD train in the future. Frankly, our train travel is a big splurge for us--we both drive 20 year old compact cars and seldom eat out. Train travel is something special; if it becomes Ryan Air by rail, it will lose a lot of its appeal. We'll likely take the Empire Builder again sometime--haven't done that for many years; but without question, we'll travel Amtrak a lot less. I'll miss it, without question. But I bet Amtrak won't miss our business, sadly.