D.P. Roberts
Conductor
Many people I know are interested in taking an Amtrak trip, but are reluctant to do so because of the cost. I often recommend that they set up an AGR account & start earning points for shopping, to at least get them started on earning points toward a free trip. Earlier this week I realized that's not such a good idea.
I mentioned this in another thread, but I'll retell my story here just in case. I have an AGR Mastercard linked with my AGR account, and my wife has an AGR account in her name too, with no credit card. Between the points we earn on the credit card, Points for Shopping, and the bonus points-buying opportunities, we've managed to take a long-distance train trip every summer for the past few years without actually buying a ticket. So, although she signed up when we took our first trip back in 2007, she hasn't traveled on a purchased ticket since then.
Last June (2014) AGR offered a point-buying bonus: 50% extra points when you purchase 10,000 points. I had already purchased some points on my account this year, so I was not eligible for the 50% bonus on my account, so we decided to buy 10,000 points on my wife's account, & use them on our trip next summer.
All well and good - until she got her October 2014 AGR statement. Her balance had dropped from 15,000 points to zero. We've e-mailed and spoken to Amtrak several times this week, and finally straightened everything out, but here's the point: since she hasn't traveled on a purchased ticket since 2007, her account basically "expired" in 2010 (36 months after her last paid trip).
I understood the 36-months rule, and I knew that the points from 2007 had expired. What I didn't realize was that any points earned since then were subject to immediate cancellation at any time. In her case, she bought points in June 2014, and Amtrak just happened to "purge" her account in September 2014 - three months later. Technically, they could have purged her account the very day she bought the points! In a sense, she had a "zombie" account - it was active, but not really alive, and the points could have (and did) disappear at any time.
A very nice AGR representative helped us out - they restored the points, with the warning that they might also get "purged" again at any time. As the nice AGR lady (and several AU members in the other thread) suggested, we immediately applied for an AGR Mastercard in my wife's name on her AGR account. This will prevent her points from expiring, and as an added bonus we get 12,000 points on her account after spending $500.
So it all worked out in the end, but I just thing it's a weird flaw in the AGR program. Once your points expire after 36 months of non-travel, you'd think AGR would be more clear about your account's status. If your account is subject to random purges at that time, they should just block you from earning any points at all (purchasing, shopping, whatever) until you accrue actual miles and "activate" your account again. To do otherwise just invents an unfortunate customer service situation like ours.
I mentioned this in another thread, but I'll retell my story here just in case. I have an AGR Mastercard linked with my AGR account, and my wife has an AGR account in her name too, with no credit card. Between the points we earn on the credit card, Points for Shopping, and the bonus points-buying opportunities, we've managed to take a long-distance train trip every summer for the past few years without actually buying a ticket. So, although she signed up when we took our first trip back in 2007, she hasn't traveled on a purchased ticket since then.
Last June (2014) AGR offered a point-buying bonus: 50% extra points when you purchase 10,000 points. I had already purchased some points on my account this year, so I was not eligible for the 50% bonus on my account, so we decided to buy 10,000 points on my wife's account, & use them on our trip next summer.
All well and good - until she got her October 2014 AGR statement. Her balance had dropped from 15,000 points to zero. We've e-mailed and spoken to Amtrak several times this week, and finally straightened everything out, but here's the point: since she hasn't traveled on a purchased ticket since 2007, her account basically "expired" in 2010 (36 months after her last paid trip).
I understood the 36-months rule, and I knew that the points from 2007 had expired. What I didn't realize was that any points earned since then were subject to immediate cancellation at any time. In her case, she bought points in June 2014, and Amtrak just happened to "purge" her account in September 2014 - three months later. Technically, they could have purged her account the very day she bought the points! In a sense, she had a "zombie" account - it was active, but not really alive, and the points could have (and did) disappear at any time.
A very nice AGR representative helped us out - they restored the points, with the warning that they might also get "purged" again at any time. As the nice AGR lady (and several AU members in the other thread) suggested, we immediately applied for an AGR Mastercard in my wife's name on her AGR account. This will prevent her points from expiring, and as an added bonus we get 12,000 points on her account after spending $500.
So it all worked out in the end, but I just thing it's a weird flaw in the AGR program. Once your points expire after 36 months of non-travel, you'd think AGR would be more clear about your account's status. If your account is subject to random purges at that time, they should just block you from earning any points at all (purchasing, shopping, whatever) until you accrue actual miles and "activate" your account again. To do otherwise just invents an unfortunate customer service situation like ours.
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