So theoretically both the cardinal and the lsl could be using them and there still be 5 spares.The cardinal needs 2 at present, and the lake shore limited needs three.
The crew cars will go to Lake Shore Limited, and Cardinal. The other cars have not been assigned yet.
Per ESPA / NARP 2016 meeting.
There is a post on another board about the Cardinal perhaps being in danger of running at all. With the downturn in coal traffic on the subdivision east of Cincinnati, there's speculation that CSX is going to downgrade the line and ask Amtrak to pick up the tab to maintain the line so as to be able to run at decent speeds. That, or run at 30 MPH.Pretty much, though the cardinal should go daily, eventually, needing another set of equipment.
That is what the Inspector General report of a year and a half ago on the decision making process for the utilization of LD equipment stated. After the order was revised to only 10 bag-dorms, the planned utilization was 5 cars in regular revenue service, 2 reserve for shop count based on current ratio (80% utlilization) and 3 excess cars. The only LD trains that would fit the 5 cars were the Cardinal and LSL. So this is not new news.So theoretically both the cardinal and the lsl could be using them and there still be 5 spares.The cardinal needs 2 at present, and the lake shore limited needs three.
Back when the cars were first being built, the stated plan - backed by photos of the production line - was to first build 2 of each type. Those would be run through testing and review. Then CAF was going to operate 2 production line simultaneously, one to build the remainder of the order for diners, bag-dorms, sleeper cars in sequential order, and the second to build the baggage cars. So the baggage-dorm car is simply the second of the first 2 units. Of course, that production plan went into the dumper and here we are, 4 years after this thread was started...Yeah I saw that, and I assume they are sticking to their plan as they are obviously the cars that are most needed first. I was just wondering why the Bag-Dorm seemed to be the first production one and not the original prototype.
There are pictures from literally yesterday, one click of the "previous page" button away.Has anyone spotted any diners yet?
We have 2739 or so posts on this thread. But if the Moderators deleted all the posts asking in one way or another, "Are we there yet?" that might cut the number by half.Ok that makes sense. Didn't know all this I'm fairly new to the forum and didn't fancy reading all 2000 something posts in this thread
One diner released for testing - the same car that had been released previously then return to CAF. I don't expect to see any multiple diner releases until mid-summer, at the earliest. A lot depends on what this round of testing finds and, if needed, how involved the corrective actions are.Has anyone spotted any diners yet?
O.K., I'll defend CAF. It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it.. . . I don't expect to see any multiple diner releases until mid-summer, at the earliest. . . .Has anyone spotted any diners yet?
The contrast between CAF's performance with the car contract and Siemens' performance with the ACS-64 is pretty dramatic. To be sure, the ACS-64's have not been trouble free, but the CAF work makes me think of the Yugo.
What are the current problems with the baggage cars?Nippon Sharyo could still come out of this looking good. A redesigned car could pass all tests and a speeded up assembly line could get get the cars out in time. CAF has no chance of ever looking good, since it seems the already completed baggage cars have their own set of problems.
You know, I was there and I missed that. Did anyone say which section of the LSL they were going to put the bag-dorm on -- Boston or NY?The crew cars will go to Lake Shore Limited, and Cardinal. The other cars have not been assigned yet.
Per ESPA / NARP 2016 meeting.
Minor issue was he first stated Boston Section than change his mind to New York. So only time will tell for sure.You know, I was there and I missed that. Did anyone say which section of the LSL they were going to put the bag-dorm on -- Boston or NY?The crew cars will go to Lake Shore Limited, and Cardinal. The other cars have not been assigned yet.
Per ESPA / NARP 2016 meeting.
NY would make more sense from the perspective of (a) that's where most of the crew is coming from, (b) roomette prices are typically higher on the NY section, (c ) the NY section runs up against platform length limits so a combine leaves more room for private car moves or added coaches.
But on the other hand, I'm not sure if all the luggage from NY will fit in the bag-dorm.
I sure would like to see this happen. However I think n-s is too far behind in the process. (Perhaps the quoted response and my statement could be moved to the bi-level discussion so I don't hijack this thread.)Nippon Sharyo could still come out of this looking good. A redesigned car could pass all tests and a speeded up assembly line could get get the cars out in time. CAF has no chance of ever looking good, since it seems the already completed baggage cars have their own set of problems.
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