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He didn't really answer the question about low cost sleepers.
He didn't really answer the question about low cost sleepers.
In the Amtrak world, the Roomette is the low cost sleeper. I don’t think that is changing anytime soon.
Perhaps Amtrak should consider modifying some of those 70 underutilized baggage cars. I would think it would be a lot less expensive to modify by adding maybe 50/60 seats rather than buy new one.I suspect that fleet renewal of many hundreds of Coaches is such a pressing matter right now that significant additional Sleepers will have to wait a while, unless Congress decides to fund such an addition separately. I think Congress will find it hard to do so while Coaches are falling apart.
Some of us here would like to see the return of the Slumbercoach concept. It offered a private accomodation + a surcharge over the coach fare. Not as comfortable as a roomette, but,it was passable, IMO.
I like the roomette configuration with the beds next to the window. I don’t know if Siemens can create a single level sleeper that is similar to a viewliner sleeper as well as a diner that can provide full meal service. That would be great for standardization. The superliners are going to need to be replaced at some point.
Possibly an intermediate step to replacing the superliners would be a complete overhaul of the interior along with the toilets, showers and hvac systems. This could be done at beach grove.
I think he wants to augment the fleet rather than replace anything.What? The Viewliner II’s are barely in service and you want to replace them? Lol
That's how I read his answer too. Essentially saying they're not having trouble selling what they have and the product is already popular. It sounds like more of the same would be preferred to a new type. Sometimes a non-answer is an answer.In the Amtrak world, the Roomette is the low cost sleeper. I don’t think that is changing anytime soon.
I think he did. He said the sleepers are pretty full at current fares, so why lower them.He didn't really answer the question about low cost sleepers.
Perhaps Amtrak should consider modifying some of those 70 underutilized baggage cars.
That sounds like an possible argument for augmenting existing sleeping cars will all-roomette (+ADA Bedroom) cars. Roomettes are also a good configuration for premium day travel.
I completely agree. To me, the Viewliner II sleepers are perfect, it's using the same design but with a much-needed facelift. I wish we could just renovate the Superliners to match the Viewliner II's, maybe without the sink.Possibly an intermediate step to replacing the superliners would be a complete overhaul of the interior along with the toilets, showers and hvac systems. This could be done at beach grove.
I wasn’t suggesting converting them to all coach. Rather, I suggested they modify them to still carry baggage, like baggage-dorms, but install some coach seating. In the past they were referred to as combines.Don't agree; there is a need to increase checked baggage service. If that would happen, those baggage cars would be needed.
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