Viewliner II Part 4: Sleeping Car production, delivery, speculation

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John Santos

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I think the VL II cubbies are longer but shallower than the VL I's. Most of the space above the corridor in the VL I's is shared by the two opposing roomettes. About half the length of each is cubby, and since the two roomettes are arranged head to tail, each gets half the length and the entire width (less the thickness of the wall) of that space.
I haven't ridden a VL II yet (maybe in May?!) but from the pictures, it looks like the VL II cubbies are longer (front-to-back) though not the full length of the roomette, but only half the width of the corridor. The two cubbies for opposing roomettes are back-to-back instead of side-by-side. This would make them only half as deep, and since they don't appear to extend the full length of the roomette, much less volume than the VL I's.

Since crumple zones seem to be an issue (or necessity) for meeting the crash-worthiness of new cars, wouldn't it make sense to put luggage racks at each end of the VL II sleepers? (Maybe I've answered my own question there.) Racks would be much more usable by many of the passengers who have trouble getting their luggage up into the overhead cubbies. It seems more difficult to get stuff up there than in typical overhead racks in coach. Maybe because the upper bed gets in the way?

All said, this is a bad time to be redesigning the VL II sleepers;). Maybe useful for the VL III's or what ever they call the next single-level sleepers.
 
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I got both an old and new sleeper on my trip last week so I took the opportunity to measure the storage cubbies.

Old: 36" wide, 23" deep, total height, 17", but only 12" clearance over the bar.
New: 36" wide, 17" deep, total height 16", 11" clearance over the bar.

I did really appreciate the extra storage where the toilet used to be in the Viewliner II.
 
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I got both an old and new sleeper on my trip last week so I took the opportunity to measure the storage cubbies.

Old: 36" wide, 23" deep, total height, 17", but only 12" clearance over the bar.
New: 36" wide, 17" deep, total height 16", 11" clearance over the bar.

I did really appreciate the extra storage where the toilet used to be in the Viewliner II.

Initially you would think that they put something new over the aisle (such as the electrical cable) but because the rooms alternate I would think there isn't that much opportunity to do so but maybe they zig-zagged it in.

I so wish they did something about that bar since it greatly restricts access. Probably a simple lip would have sufficed? Maybe a door?
 
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Initially you would think that they put something new over the aisle (such as the electrical cable) but because the rooms alternate I would think there isn't that much opportunity to do so but maybe they zig-zagged it in.

I so wish they did something about that bar since it greatly restricts access. Probably a simple lip would have sufficed? Maybe a door?

Or straps that can be hooked up like the ones on the top bunk.
 

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I'm on a Cardinal train 50 leaving Chicago going to NYC. It leaves Chicago at 5:55 CST.
Can someone tell me if any of the new Viewliner II cars could be on this route and I will board one of those? I'd love to be in one of these updated cars!
 

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I'm on a Cardinal train 50 leaving Chicago going to NYC. It leaves Chicago at 5:55 CST.
Can someone tell me if any of the new Viewliner II cars could be on this route and I will board one of those? I'd love to be in one of these updated cars!
What is your date of travel? If it is within the next several weeks then your are unlikely to get a new Viewliner on the Cardinal.
 
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By then it is possible that there will be a change over to a VL-2. But we should know about such a change much before that, if it comes to pass. So hang onto your hat and see what comes about.
There is a VL2 on the Cardinal - but it is a combo Crew Dorm / Baggage Car. The Crew Dorm includes Roomettes that are similar/identical to the Roomettes available on a VL2 Sleeper. We seem to have pretty good information here that Amtrak intends to start booking a few of the excess Crew Dorm Roomettes that as of now go unused. As a matter of fact, we've had reports from members here who have been booked for future dates in the Crew Dorm.

So as jis says, hang on to your hat - and look for news on either a full VL2 sleeper on the Cardinal (less likely), or an opportunity to book a VL2 Crew Dorm Roomette (more likely)...
 
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