Actually, right up to April 30, 1971, the B&O's Metropolitan listed that food can be purchased during station stops at Cumberland, Grafton or Clarksburg. Same for the Cincinnatian at Toledo.Yep, won't be long before we suggest the Palmetto has a meal stop in its schedule as done long ago on some secondary trains.
Um it's only 444 NYP-PGH, and 829 NYP-SAV, so I'd say that the Palmetto is a bit longer than the Penny. Almost double in fact, just like the upgrade price.Why is it $50 to upgrade on the Palmetto and only $25 on the Penny from PGH-NYP? The Palmetto can't be all that much longer than the Penny's ride--
Ah but when I said "longer" I meant time wise, not rail miles. The Palmetto does its run in around 16 hours, the Penny in about 9... I guess I could see it that way, but a 16 hour run, is there another destination the Palmetto could go on to to make it an overnight train?Um it's only 444 NYP-PGH, and 829 NYP-SAV, so I'd say that the Palmetto is a bit longer than the Penny. Almost double in fact, just like the upgrade price.Why is it $50 to upgrade on the Palmetto and only $25 on the Penny from PGH-NYP? The Palmetto can't be all that much longer than the Penny's ride--
Sure, Miami. But then it would go back to being the Silver Palm and not the Palmetto.Ah but when I said "longer" I meant time wise, not rail miles. The Palmetto does its run in around 16 hours, the Penny in about 9... I guess I could see it that way, but a 16 hour run, is there another destination the Palmetto could go on to to make it an overnight train?Um it's only 444 NYP-PGH, and 829 NYP-SAV, so I'd say that the Palmetto is a bit longer than the Penny. Almost double in fact, just like the upgrade price.Why is it $50 to upgrade on the Palmetto and only $25 on the Penny from PGH-NYP? The Palmetto can't be all that much longer than the Penny's ride--
Well-- who in hell cares then? "Palmetto" sounds like the young child of the "Silver Palm" anyway-- I'm sure they'd fill the seats... just need the diner and the sleepers which will be coming in the next couple years. The more Silver Service the better-- Around peak times they'll fill those trains to the brim!Sure, Miami. But then it would go back to being the Silver Palm and not the Palmetto.Ah but when I said "longer" I meant time wise, not rail miles. The Palmetto does its run in around 16 hours, the Penny in about 9... I guess I could see it that way, but a 16 hour run, is there another destination the Palmetto could go on to to make it an overnight train?Um it's only 444 NYP-PGH, and 829 NYP-SAV, so I'd say that the Palmetto is a bit longer than the Penny. Almost double in fact, just like the upgrade price.Why is it $50 to upgrade on the Palmetto and only $25 on the Penny from PGH-NYP? The Palmetto can't be all that much longer than the Penny's ride--
I've no doubt that they can fill the seats. They used to fill them back when it ran, and ridership has only gone up since then. And I rode the Palm several times and only once during a peak period.I'm sure they'd fill the seats... just need the diner and the sleepers which will be coming in the next couple years. The more Silver Service the better-- Around peak times they'll fill those trains to the brim!
The Palmetto would be about the only LD train with BC that I'd recommend paying $50 for. Its faux leather seats are still on some (if not all) of the trainsets. If you're travelling alone or with a partner, that is. If you're travelling with kids, I'd go in the back.As this has already been discussed years ago, i don't want to open a new thread, but ask the question here:
How is Palmetto's BC doing these days?
Would you recommend to spend an extra $50 on it?
It should be free drinks the whole way.Thanks. Is this free drinks for the entire trip deal still true or is it one drink per person in BC?
Besides: What's the (in)offical short form for the Palmetto? P? B)
And at this point it only helps Amtrak to fill seats up. The more riders they can shift away from airline travel, the better. During this time of fiscal anarchy, it is best policy that we get as many costumers as possible. That way when the recession ends there will be a strong base off of which to build.I've no doubt that they can fill the seats. They used to fill them back when it ran, and ridership has only gone up since then. And I rode the Palm several times and only once during a peak period.I'm sure they'd fill the seats... just need the diner and the sleepers which will be coming in the next couple years. The more Silver Service the better-- Around peak times they'll fill those trains to the brim!
They give you ice, y'know?They will run out of drinks (Other than perhaps Coffee) by about Washington DC. You may get lucky with a drink or two after that. Note that you can only get a drink when the cafe is open.
Never mind what Amtrak says, it's all about what they have onboard, and the sodas are usually warm (Gotta keep the cold drinks for those paying cash, not those paying on a ticket).
They do not treat them as freeloaders. I'm sorry you only get 8oz instead of 12, but there are indeed unlimited drinks on at least the LD trains. I had a very long and detailed talk about this with the Café attendant on the Penny, he was very informative. Perhaps you should read what he had to say in my trip report? M'kay?You fail to understand my point. BC Pax are treated by the Cafe Car attendant (per policy) as free-loaders, not as the premium paying passengers that they are.
They give ice to people paying cash at the bar for a 12-oz refridgerated drink that doesn't melt the ice as fast, too y'know.
Thank you for your email.
The café car is supposed to have enough non-revenue beverages stocked for the duration of the train route. We certainly apologize for not having complementary beverages available that are included in your business class ticket. We should have provided you a revenue beverage as a way to apologize and to provide good customer service to you and other business class travelers. An adjustment and exception certainly could have been made.
We have forwarded your email directly to the train manager so that they are made aware of your concerns and hopefully this will not continue to happen. Our apologies for not responding appropriately in our previous emails.
Thank you again for writing.
Regards
Alicia Messinger
Amtrak Customer Relations
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