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Yay! So they'll most likely be ready for service by April!they were picked up yesterday at CAF .
Train consist
AMTK 100 P42
AMTK 82686 Coach
AMTK 68019 NASHVILLE Diner
AMTK 68018 MONTPELIER Diner
AMTK 520 GP38-3
Yay! So they'll most likely be ready for service by April!they were picked up yesterday at CAF .
Train consist
AMTK 100 P42
AMTK 82686 Coach
AMTK 68019 NASHVILLE Diner
AMTK 68018 MONTPELIER Diner
AMTK 520 GP38-3
I'm thinking more mid-April at the moment. Montpelier and Nashville will be ready for service by the end of March. That will bring the VL Diner count to 17. That will unquestionably be sufficient equipment-wise. Then I'm expecting a couple weeks after that the diner is back on. Call me an optimist, but that's my best guess.Expect restoration of Diner Service on the LSL in the May timeframe I should imagine.
You're using your desire for the LSL to get its diner back to guide your logic. We have no idea what Amtrak management is using for their decision making process, they could decide to make no change, or put the diner on the Star or any number of changes that are not expected.I'm thinking more mid-April at the moment. Montpelier and Nashville will be ready for service by the end of March. That will bring the VL Diner count to 17. That will unquestionably be sufficient equipment-wise. Then I'm expecting a couple weeks after that the diner is back on. Call me an optimist, but that's my best guess.Expect restoration of Diner Service on the LSL in the May timeframe I should imagine.
The diner on the LSL is considered to be financially viable. The LSL had a very high coach passenger diner-utilization rate, meaning that a surprisingly large number of coach pax use the diner on that train.You're using your desire for the LSL to get its diner back to guide your logic. We have no idea what Amtrak management is using for their decision making process, they could decide to make no change, or put the diner on the Star or any number of changes that are not expected.I'm thinking more mid-April at the moment. Montpelier and Nashville will be ready for service by the end of March. That will bring the VL Diner count to 17. That will unquestionably be sufficient equipment-wise. Then I'm expecting a couple weeks after that the diner is back on. Call me an optimist, but that's my best guess.Expect restoration of Diner Service on the LSL in the May timeframe I should imagine.
Well, absent the new Diners there is no chance of the Star getting Diner. So in that sense the Star getting Diner is closely related to the new equipment. It is also true that the availability of new equipment does not imply that the Star will get Diner restored.So if the Silver Star were to get its dining car back, it would have no relation to the new equipment.
You make a lot of bold declarative statements referencing the reasoning behind internal Amtrak decision making and Amtrak staffing levels as if they are the Gospel truth. Truth is, we know far less than you think we do, and that extends forward into the future.And there is no chance that the Star would get a dining car before the LSL. The Lake Shore lost the dining car due to Heritage diner shortages. The Star lost its dining car to cut costs. Because the Silver Star doesn't have a diner, the train now only needs one locomotive, and they ditched ALL the diner staff. The LSL diner-lite still operates with three staff (so that's still three salaries to pay) and it didn't allow for fewer locomotives either. So if the Silver Star were to get its dining car back, it would have no relation to the new equipment.
That is very true.The point I was striving to make is its not a numbers game for the LSL or any other train. There are other factors that we are not privy to in the decision. For all we know Amtrak could decide to park them someplace and rent them out to Star Bucks.
It has to be Waffle House! Everyone on earth would want to eat in a V-II Waffle House diner! [emoji2]That is very true.The point I was striving to make is its not a numbers game for the LSL or any other train. There are other factors that we are not privy to in the decision. For all we know Amtrak could decide to park them someplace and rent them out to Star Bucks.
I would go for Denny's though for the raw ambianceWith appropriate additional wall decor it could be adapted for Cracker barrel too I suppose
To be clear, that much I 100% agree with.The point I was striving to make is its not a numbers game for the LSL or any other train. There are other factors that we are not privy to in the decision. For all we know Amtrak could decide to park them someplace and rent them out to Star Bucks.
Do you recall which diner was operating?IMG_1519857078.533987.jpg
Screenshot from a video I just took as 97 approached WIL
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Who will, in turn, start selling capa-chapa-mocha-mara-choco-chino coffee drinks on Amtrak, selling them at a huge profit with lines so long they stretch into the baggage car. They will do so well, Amtrak management will raise the price of ordinary coffee in its diners and start charging sleeping car passengers for coffee.The point I was striving to make is its not a numbers game for the LSL or any other train. There are other factors that we are not privy to in the decision. For all we know Amtrak could decide to park them someplace and rent them out to Star Bucks.
Sorry dont think the Star dinning staff was cut, I recall they are still working, but on a longer schedule. In example ever 9th day compares to ever 7th day. Random numbers used for explanations. Now it been a few years, one think simple turnovers, and retirement would downsize the crew base. Be interesting if the Unions would fight to stop the crew from going back to the normal work schedule?And there is no chance that the Star would get a dining car before the LSL. The Lake Shore lost the dining car due to Heritage diner shortages. The Star lost its dining car to cut costs. Because the Silver Star doesn't have a diner, the train now only needs one locomotive, and they ditched ALL the diner staff.
What do you mean? The Silver Star doesn’t have a dining car, so it obviously doesn’t have dining car staff. Sorry if I’m misunderstanding your post.Sorry dont think the Star dinning staff was cut, I recall they are still working, but on a longer schedule. In example ever 9th day compares to ever 7th day. Random numbers used for explanations. Now it been a few years, one think simple turnovers, and retirement would downsize the crew base. Be interesting if the Unions would fight to stop the crew from going back to the normal work schedule?And there is no chance that the Star would get a dining car before the LSL. The Lake Shore lost the dining car due to Heritage diner shortages. The Star lost its dining car to cut costs. Because the Silver Star doesn't have a diner, the train now only needs one locomotive, and they ditched ALL the diner staff.
They're probably working other trains, like the Meteor. Or they working in other capacities on the Star.What do you mean? The Silver Star doesn’t have a dining car, so it obviously doesn’t have dining car staff. Sorry if I’m misunderstanding your post.Sorry dont think the Star dinning staff was cut, I recall they are still working, but on a longer schedule. In example ever 9th day compares to ever 7th day. Random numbers used for explanations. Now it been a few years, one think simple turnovers, and retirement would downsize the crew base. Be interesting if the Unions would fight to stop the crew from going back to the normal work schedule?And there is no chance that the Star would get a dining car before the LSL. The Lake Shore lost the dining car due to Heritage diner shortages. The Star lost its dining car to cut costs. Because the Silver Star doesn't have a diner, the train now only needs one locomotive, and they ditched ALL the diner staff.
Oh, I see. I would have thought that Amtrak would ‘cut loose’ some of the staff, if they were no longer needed for the SS diner. There were probably around 20 total dining car staff on the Star (between the four consists). Does Amtrak really have use for all of them elsewhere?They're probably working other trains, like the Meteor. Or they working in other capacities on the Star.What do you mean? The Silver Star doesn’t have a dining car, so it obviously doesn’t have dining car staff. Sorry if I’m misunderstanding your post.Sorry dont think the Star dinning staff was cut, I recall they are still working, but on a longer schedule. In example ever 9th day compares to ever 7th day. Random numbers used for explanations. Now it been a few years, one think simple turnovers, and retirement would downsize the crew base. Be interesting if the Unions would fight to stop the crew from going back to the normal work schedule?And there is no chance that the Star would get a dining car before the LSL. The Lake Shore lost the dining car due to Heritage diner shortages. The Star lost its dining car to cut costs. Because the Silver Star doesn't have a diner, the train now only needs one locomotive, and they ditched ALL the diner staff.
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