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Yeah I don't really believe any of the numbers quoted in that article without further backup material
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X2Yeah I don;t really believe any of the numbers quoted in that article without further backup material
I can't comfirm or deny any of the costs, but it seems reasonable.
The food has to be ordered and stocked by a commisary that has to deliver the food to the airport? Then the food has to be loaded onto the plane by specialty employees... Then excess food is unloaded and returned to a commisary.
That's alot of steps for each flight (or set of flights..) Way more than a restaurant getting an order from Sysco once or twice a week and storing it in a big walk in till its needed.
Yes, but at the scale the airlines and commissaries are operating, those costs and overhead probably work out to be relatively negligible. And FC meals are probably ordered from the same places as the rest of the food, which further divides up the costs. On a 400 passenger flight, delivery costs would have to be pretty astronomical to average anything like $100 per person.I can't comfirm or deny any of the costs, but it seems reasonable.
The food has to be ordered and stocked by a commisary that has to deliver the food to the airport? Then the food has to be loaded onto the plane by specialty employees... Then excess food is unloaded and returned to a commisary.
That's alot of steps for each flight (or set of flights..) Way more than a restaurant getting an order from Sysco once or twice a week and storing it in a big walk in till its needed.
Americans are keenly aware that our airline service standards have devolved into sharp tongues and indifferent lip service (well, most of us anyway) but that doesn't mean we believe every dumpy foreign outfit is always better. Virtually any airline south of the US border is or anywhere in Africa is generally assumed to be substantially worse than the domestic carriers. It's true that many of us believe the best foreign airlines are indeed better than most/all US airlines, but that view isn't only held by US citizens; a majority of airline rating respondents, travel journalists, and globetrotting bloggers agree with us.Notwithstanding the popular belief in the US, all foreign airlines are not really better than the US airlines international service either.
Absolutely. There are about a dozen outstanding airlines, most of which are undoubtedly better than the US3. Beyond that things get pretty spotty.Americans are keenly aware that our airline service standards have devolved into sharp tongues and indifferent lip service (well, most of us anyway) but that doesn't mean we believe every dumpy foreign outfit is always better. Virtually any airline south of the US border is or anywhere in Africa is generally assumed to be substantially worse than the domestic carriers. It's true that many of us believe the best foreign airlines are indeed better than most/all US airlines, but that view isn't only held by US citizens; a majority of airline rating respondents, travel journalists, and globetrotting bloggers agree with us.Notwithstanding the popular belief in the US, all foreign airlines are not really better than the US airlines international service either.
I can't comfirm or deny any of the costs, but it seems reasonable.
The food has to be ordered and stocked by a commisary that has to deliver the food to the airport? Then the food has to be loaded onto the plane by specialty employees... Then excess food is unloaded and returned to a commisary.
That's alot of steps for each flight (or set of flights..) Way more than a restaurant getting an order from Sysco once or twice a week and storing it in a big walk in till its needed.
You didn’t miss anything. All we know what he heard about that one employee. Knowing Amtrak, it wouldn’t at all surprise me for them to ditch the chef on the CL, given recent trends. That said, until we get further info, I wouldn’t say this is by any means definite.Is there any confirmation that the Capitol is losing it’s chefs? Unless I missed it, seems it’s just hearsay from an Amtrak employee.
Note I said, "this rumor along with the threads about... ". The only thing I stated was a rumor was the chefs being removed off of the Capitol limited. I don't know enough about the other situations. But there is a pattern.The private cars and charters isn't a rumor. It's a fact. It's such a fact I'm now unemployed.
I had one of the chicken dinners on the Southwest Chief in September 2017. It was a very good meal for $12, certainly better than a meal in economy class on an international flight. I think that about half of the passengers in a fairly full coach ordered the dinner.Re the Special Meals for Coach pasengers:
When I rode the Sunset Ltd. this Winter the offering was a Chicken Dinner with a bottle of Water that cost $12, and the Coach Attendant took orders,the LSA collected the $$$ in advance since they are the only OBS allowed to handle purchases.
The attendant delivered them to the Coach Seats ( Sleeping Car pax weren't allowed to order them).Several Coach riders told me it was delicious and worth the $12!
I think this is an excellent idea for LD Trains for ALL passengers that could pre order and paid for with their tickets.
With recent changes, I think there is cause to be concerned that this won't be just the capitol losing its chef. :-/
That's a long rabbit hole to go down.... Which transportation systems should the tax payer pay for?
The country would survive without long distance rail, but it would also survive without interstates (make them all toll roads that charge as much as they need to) smaller regional airports that currently lose money... Etc. Etc.
No easy answers.
Where do you live?
Some cities, commuter rail is critical and can not be replaced by driving cars. Chicago, New York, Washington, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, etc. Many other cities are trying to move that direction. Light and heavy rail run near capacity in many of these cities. The geography of Pittsburgh makes using rail difficult at best, but they did have a great trolley system in the South Hills and to east of the city, decades ago, the tunnel it used is still used today.
Or...just picture this. When you use the website to reserve you ticket, you pick from a menu of available items in advance. Then, they use the dining cars to serve the meals that would be higher quality than what is served in the diner lite and would be closer to what is served on the Acela.Re the Special Meals for Coach pasengers:
When I rode the Sunset Ltd. this Winter the offering was a Chicken Dinner with a bottle of Water that cost $12, and the Coach Attendant took orders,the LSA collected the $$$ in advance since they are the only OBS allowed to handle purchases.
The attendant delivered them to the Coach Seats ( Sleeping Car pax weren't allowed to order them).Several Coach riders told me it was delicious and worth the $12!
I think this is an excellent idea for LD Trains for ALL passengers that could pre order and paid for with their tickets.
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