“Dark Territory” used by Amtrak

[Oreius]

Most main railroad lines are signaled, and many have PTC. However, smaller short lines often have no signals—this is called “dark territory.” The WNYP, which runs on the former Erie-Lackawanna mainline between Hornell, NY and Meadville, PA is all dark territory. There is a signal in Corry, PA that protects the junction there with the former Philadelphia and Erie (Pennsylvania RR) line between Erie and Johnsonburg. Both lines cross at Corry Diamond. Are there any sections that Amtrak trains run on “dark territory?”

 

[zephyr17]

The Minnesota Commercial that Amtrak uses around the old Midway Station to get from the former Milwaukee to BNSF in Minneapolis is dark.

I think parts of Buckingham Branch RR the Cardinal uses may be dark, but am not sure.

 

[neroden]

Adirondack in Canada and Ethan Allen Express in Vermont.

https://www.timesunion.com/business/article/Amtrak-reconsiders-risks-of-dark-territory-12714409.php

 

[lordsigma]

Adirondack in Canada and Ethan Allen Express in Vermont.

https://www.timesunion.com/business/article/Amtrak-reconsiders-risks-of-dark-territory-12714409.php

Also Vermonter in Vermont dark north of WRJ - signaled but no PTC between WRJ and the Springfield diamond.

 

[frequentflyer]

UP's Temple Tx to Taylor Tx on the Eagle.

 

[Oreius]

Adirondack in Canada and Ethan Allen Express in Vermont.

The article states the Adirondack only goes 10 mph on parts of the Rouses Point Subdivision. I don’t recall going THAT slow back in 2012. That’s really putsy-putsy! We probably did 25 mph on the segment from the CBSA facility to Cantic. Perhaps 35 at top speed between Cantic and the CN junction south of St. Lambert. I guess the condition of the track deteriorated more by 2018?

I was in the caboose Coach. I remember a CN track man boarded my car at Rouses Point. He then threw the switch which allowed the train to transfer to the Rouses Point Subdivision. He got off I believe after we cleared inspection…