Amfleet question

[racer1735]

I am trying to get back into the railfan game after having been out of the loop for the past 20 years or so. I rode the 'Cardinal' back in the early 80's when it still made a stop in Muncie, IN, and my memory seems to recall the early Amfleet coaches having 'frameless' trucks (the wheels weren't obscured by suspension or frames on the trucks). More recently I've noticed 'conventional' style trucks on these cars. Am I remembering correctly? Or is my memory playing games? To me, they were a very distinctive feature (in addition to, at the time, the curved style to the sides of the cars).

 

[The Metropolitan]

I don't think there's been any truck retrofit, and I would still call them "frameless trucks," as it seems the only obscuring detail is the one suspension bar (?) near each.

 

[battalion51]

Most of the hardware that's normally contained on the exterior of the truck is contained on the inside of the wheels on most Amfleets. However on the Amfleet I Cab Cars the trucks are different (they have more of a traditional truck). You can see in this photo below:

 

[George Harris]

Properly they are "Inside Frame Trucks"

 

[JAChooChoo]

Properly they are "Inside Frame Trucks"

Amfleet I and Amfleet II have inside frame trucks.

The similar appearing Cab Cars and Michigan Cars are actually refurbished 1967 Metroliner Cars which had outside frame trucks.

 

[George Harris]

Properly they are "Inside Frame Trucks"

Amfleet I and Amfleet II have inside frame trucks.

The similar appearing Cab Cars and Michigan Cars are actually refurbished 1967 Metroliner Cars which had outside frame trucks.

True what you see in the picture are inside frame trucks. If you see the full wheel as you do in this picture, then it is an inside frame truck.

George