Why should it affect Amtrak? It is two huge blocks (350m) away from the Amtrak RoWAnybody know - or cares to speculate I suppose - on how this will affect Amtrak or how Amtrak will react?
I was thinking more along the lines of people not being able to drive and the potential carmageddon (love the word, but usually overstated) since it's such a heavily trafficked highway. In other words, how much will people turn to the train or alternate routes?Why should it affect Amtrak? It is two huge blocks (350m) away from the Amtrak RoW
If SEPTA steps upto the plate and lengthens trains and adds frequency, I am sure they will potentially have many more riders.I was thinking more along the lines of people not being able to drive and the potential carmageddon (love the word, but usually overstated) since it's such a heavily trafficked highway. In other words, how much will people turn to the train or alternate routes?
Incidentally, relatively little of New York/NJ traffic to Philly take I-95 through there unless they are going to somewhere close to I-95. Most of the through traffic takes I-295 and NJ Turnpike on the other side of the river. So effect on through Amtrak ridership may be more muted.
Would suspect that a few NJ commuters to PHL might get on Amtrak. Now NJ Transit might take a lot to Trenton that will have to change to SEPTA? Or even Amtrak at Trenton?
There are many unknowns about installing a new bridge(s). The Atlanta I-85 fire and collapse was fortunate that no underground utilities were involved. The report of manhole covers exploding leaves the question are any utilities involved that would slow reconstruction. If southbound bridge OK or even just for cars it might be able to become temporary 2 way?
Yup, and that traffic will now have to detour via I-295 or take the PA Turnpike perhaps. So as I said there will be some increase in congestion across the River. but it won't be the primary NEC traffic that Amtrak carries. In terms of Amtrak trains it would be more the Keystone Corridor traffic than NEC traffic.Whenever I have driven to Philadelphia or to the Main Line suburbs, I have taken 95 rather than 295 from NYC.
I would not drive anywhere near I-95 in the Philadelphia area if I could possibly avoide it. A northbound overpass has fallen in on the street beneath it. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro says the southbound lanes are "structurally unsound." This is ordinarily a very heavily traveled section of highway in the mid-Atlantic states. It connects Washingron, DC to New York City. There is a parallel highway on the New Jersey side which goes into Delaware. However, that is a toll road, the New Jersey Turnpike, which is why so many travel on the Pennsylvania side which is free. But now all over the road traffic will be diverted to the Turnpike. At best that will be very slow going. At worst the Turnpike will be a parking lot of several miles.
No doubt Amtrak and the airlines will get as high prices as they can because of the disaster. Still, if I had to travel I would pay what that price. But SEPTA and New Jersey Transit will not raise prices. They coordinate their trains in Trenton so it is possible to travel from Wilmington, DL, change trains in Philadelphia, travel to Trenton, change to a train on the same platform and go on to New York Penn Station. It will not be as fast as Amtrak but it will be a lot cheaper.
I hope the southbound lanes can be opened soon so that instead of a total disaster the highway can become an almost impossible bottle neck.
Agreed… the history of I-95 in that area is large. It only was routed through Pennsylvania for political reasons, as PA did not want to be “bypassed”, and relegated to be on a “secondary” routing. The NJTP should have been given that number for its entire length, and its direct connection to Delaware, and I-295 or 495 given to the Interstate through PA.I-95 through Philadelphia is not the primary route between New York and Washington. Most through traffic uses either the NJ Turnpike or, between NJ Turnpike Exit 7 and the Delaware Memorial Bridge, I-295 (toll-free). Even bus service between New York and Philly uses the NJ Turnpike from Exit 4 north. The bridge collapse is a very big deal locally (160,000 vehicles per day have to find some other route) but will have minimal impact on intercity travel in the NEC.