Is hot water easily available on CZ for Sleepers
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KrazyKoala
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It is if you take it out of the shower.
Also: They have it in the dining car. I'm sure you can go in there and they'll be happy to give it to you. Or even a cup of water at breakfast you can drink it there.
Also: They have it in the dining car. I'm sure you can go in there and they'll be happy to give it to you. Or even a cup of water at breakfast you can drink it there.
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Tumbleweed
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Perhaps a little electric immersion water heater so you can heat it yourself? Bottled water will be available from the SCA.....
KrazyKoala
Lead Service Attendant
Good idea, they can just grab it from the diner.
crescent2
Conductor
Would it still be hot enough by the time you got it? The little immersion gadget seems a safer bet to me. ??
Enjoy your trip!
Enjoy your trip!
BOS-T-Time
Train Attendant
Hello,
I bought this immersion heater at my local Ace Hardware:
http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1333319
This thing is amazing, just make sure you put it in the water BEFORE you plug it in, and unplug it BEFORE you take it out of the water. If you do not have it covered with water while it is plugged in then it will short out. Honestly this is the best purchase I have made for my travels even when I am staying in a hotel I use it to boil the water. I just stir it around a little with a spoon to get an even heating, let it do it's thing, unplug it, take it out of the cup, and put it in the tea bag or instant coffee. I usually wait about 30 seconds before I take it out of the cup after it boils just to make sure it is not too hot and shorts out.
best travels,
BOS-T-Time
I bought this immersion heater at my local Ace Hardware:
http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1333319
This thing is amazing, just make sure you put it in the water BEFORE you plug it in, and unplug it BEFORE you take it out of the water. If you do not have it covered with water while it is plugged in then it will short out. Honestly this is the best purchase I have made for my travels even when I am staying in a hotel I use it to boil the water. I just stir it around a little with a spoon to get an even heating, let it do it's thing, unplug it, take it out of the cup, and put it in the tea bag or instant coffee. I usually wait about 30 seconds before I take it out of the cup after it boils just to make sure it is not too hot and shorts out.
best travels,
BOS-T-Time
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KrazyKoala
Lead Service Attendant
The outlets are 120V, and a 200W appliance would be rated at 0.6Amps. I'mm sure the breakers are the same, running 15-20A per segment. Not sure how many outlets are connected to one breaker though...
Also: How quickly does any hot beverage on the train cool down? They would be putting it in those paper cups with a lid I'm sure, and the diners not on the other side of town, just one or two cars over...
In what way does boiling water with an electric appliance in a confined roomette on a bouncing train seem to be safer? :blink: :lol: :giggle:
Also: How quickly does any hot beverage on the train cool down? They would be putting it in those paper cups with a lid I'm sure, and the diners not on the other side of town, just one or two cars over...
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200W at 120V is roughly 1.7 Amps assuming a PF of 1.0 (good assumption with a resistance load).
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KrazyKoala
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I must greatly apologize for my miscalculation. You are correct. The reason for my apology is that I'm an engineer. No, not a choo choo engineer, but an electrical and electronics engineer.
Hey Krazy, I was SHOCKED to find that you are an Electrical Engineer!!
KWBud
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A 15 Amp plug doesn't necessarily supply all 15 amps but instead should be limited to no more than 15 amps.
However, a 200 Watt load only draws (about) 1.8 amps which is small enough that it shouldn't be a problem.
Looking at the reviews of the product, there seem to be a lot of failures in the first few uses. Whether this is due to user error or a problem with the device, I don't know. But with that high a failure rate, I wouldn't trust it.
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Bud
Ashland Train Enthusiast
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Bringing this discussion back to water, I'm a big fan of drinking my own cup of tea in the morning and watching the sunrise and terrain go by before breakfast, so I've needed hot water in many occasion. I've always been able to get it from the dining car, either through the SCA or, when a less than stellar employee (a shocker, I know!) wasn't present, by going and asking myself. The water was always still steaming and still plenty hot enough on the walk back to the sleeper. I will say however that the cups Amtrqk provides only hold about 3/4 cup of water theay they fill them up, so if you bring your own larger travel mug like I do, you may want to get in the habit of asking for 2.
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white rabbitt
Lead Service Attendant
am i missing something, on my sleeper last year the SCA
had a coffee pot that had hot water for tea plus the pot of coffee
so i assume there is hot water in the sleepers
had a coffee pot that had hot water for tea plus the pot of coffee
so i assume there is hot water in the sleepers
There is only a teakettle present in the sleeper if there is also a stellar SCA like Charles (EB to/from PDX), who brings his own when he is on duty. I've been lots of long distance trains, and Charles is the only SCA I've *ever* seen that brought a teakettle for his passengers! So you can't count on it. You also can't count on them being willing to fill any other container than a paper cup with hot water, though they will usually fill my mug for me in the diner (almost never in the SSL lounge). The water is always plenty hot.
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I'm wondering whether it would be proper to bring a 1 Liter thermos and have them fill that with hot water?
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Bud
was that on a viewliner or superliner?
I am a tea drinker and am always looking for hot water and lately I have not seem hot water dispensers in sleepers. The Viewliners used to have machines that would dispense hot water. I think all of them are broken and they use only coffee pots now. The only hot water dispensers in sleepers that I am aware of are on the Auto Train.
white rabbitt
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superliner the texas eagle
Well in theory it costs them nothing extra to fill it for you, so any crew member in the diner should be happy to do so for a sleeper customer. But that is in theory, you could easily hit an employee who doesn't want to be bothered to make the effort.
My SCA on the LSL (a viewliner) in November told me they took out the boiling water spigots due to liability isses. So, if you want hot water you have to make it yourself or ask for it in the diner or lounge. If you ask for it in the lounge, they will only put it in a paper cup, and tell you various stories why they can't fill your container (health dept rules or inventory control, you fill in the real reason).
KWBud
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They have it there and it costs them nothing. But they give it out to sleeper customers only? Very strange?? If they can't be bothered to make the effort to provide a simple service like filling a thermos, then there goes the tip. 20% of a $20 (dinner) meal is only $4, but you would think that those in the service industry be interested in providing good service and getting tips.
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Bud
crescent2
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KKoala: "...a safer bet" means "more likely to happen," as in "the water is more likely to be hot enough for making coffee." Perhaps you don't understand some of our expressions? Did not mean to confuse you.
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