PerRock
Engineer
Cop charged with murder according to NBC: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Amtrak-Cop-Charged-With-Murder-in-Mans-Shooting-Death-Outside-Union-Station-414088473.html
peter
peter
Officer. Singular.It wouldn't surprise me if the officers lost their jobs!
That would be understating the situation. The police are there to protect our rights not to violate them. This appears to be a case of unnecessary use of lethal force. The victim may have been doing drugs, he might have been rude, uncooperative, but this doesn't justify the right to kill an unarmed man who is retreating. As in the article, the officer is being charged with first degree murder and if convicted will spend many years in jail. The bad news is that the taxpayer will be paying for this horrible mistake.It wouldn't surprise me if the officers lost their jobs!
The reason the police in England could go unarmed is that if any member of criminal undertaking carried a gun, everyone in the gang would hang.I think it's time to disarm the police, like they did in England. (They still have "armed response teams" for specific incidents where they know they will encounter people with guns.) There are too many of these killings by police. Take away the temptation to kill by taking away the guns from most of them.
Yes, but at one time the black cap was a very stylish accessory for British judges. Petty criminals knew that carrying a gun meant a death sentence.We haven't hanged any one for many a year and the majority of our cops still don't carry guns, although tasters and CS gas are now carried as standard in many forces
Thanks but quoting the whole thing wasn't really necessary. I think I misread your original statement about enforcing state and local laws. At any rate, these days, about the only state and local offense, which does not have a corresponding Federal felony, is an expired parking meter. So, for almost any state law, there's some Federal counterpart. (e.g. Robbing a convenience store => interference with interstate commerce)California Penal Code 830.
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=830.33.&lawCode=PEN
830.33.
The following persons are peace officers whose authority extends to any place in the state for the purpose of performing their primary duty or when making an arrest pursuant to Section 836 as to any public offense with respect to which there is immediate danger to person or property, or of the escape of the perpetrator of that offense, or pursuant to Section 8597 or 8598 of the Government Code. Those peace officers may carry firearms only if authorized and under terms and conditions specified by their employing agency.
(e) (1) Any railroad police officer commissioned by the Governor pursuant to Section 8226 of the Public Utilities Code, if the primary duty of the peace officer is the enforcement of the law in or about properties owned, operated, or administered by the employing agency or when performing necessary duties with respect to patrons, employees, and properties of the employing agency.
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There aren't a whole lot of federal traffic laws. Their preference is also going to be to find something straightforward rather than stretch some federal law to apply to a case. The ability to enforce state laws on land controlled by the federal government is codified by the Assimilative Crimes Act. They will actually prosecute violations of state law in federal court.Thanks but quoting the whole thing wasn't really necessary. I think I misread your original statement about enforcing state and local laws. At any rate, these days, about the only state and local offense, which does not have a corresponding Federal felony, is an expired parking meter. So, for almost any state law, there's some Federal counterpart. (e.g. Robbing a convenience store => interference with interstate commerce)
The Rack was a more popular weekend entertainment in the town square back in the days I am told.Yes, but at one time the black cap was a very stylish accessory for British judges. Petty criminals knew that carrying a gun meant a death sentence.We haven't hanged any one for many a year and the majority of our cops still don't carry guns, although tasters and CS gas are now carried as standard in many forces
If the statements in the lawsuit are correct -- and who knows whether they were -- that is the correct charge. Not necessarily for "malice aforethought" but for felony murder.Cop charged with 1st degree murder:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amtrak-officer-charged-shooting-death-unarmed-minneapolis-man-n722606
And to be clear, says VERY GOOD THINGS about the general culture at Amtrak PD.In many bad police shootings, the department neither removes the officer, nor does the jurisdiction tend to charge the officer with a crime. The fact that the Amtrak PD is not blue shielding this incident speaks volumes about the departments general culture.
While he is a federal officer, the prosecution is by the state (in the form of the DA). I don't know if they would give more deference to the officer's actions if he were a local or state officer.In many bad police shootings, the department neither removes the officer, nor does the jurisdiction tend to charge the officer with a crime. The fact that the Amtrak PD is not blue shielding this incident speaks volumes about the departments general culture.
No way is it a better paying job than engineer.While he is a federal officer, the prosecution is by the state (in the form of the DA). I don't know if they would give more deference to the officer's actions if he were a local or state officer.In many bad police shootings, the department neither removes the officer, nor does the jurisdiction tend to charge the officer with a crime. The fact that the Amtrak PD is not blue shielding this incident speaks volumes about the departments general culture.
I also find it odd that he was a former Amtrak engineer. I guess they have preference for existing employees and it's probably a better paying job. I've heard of non law-enforcement park rangers who got into law enforcement because it was considered a good career move.
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