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You must have gotten my mental message. I was wondering when Dover was coming down the NEC as I was heading home parallel to where I usually catch the new cars.Tomorrow: Dover & Frankfort
Thank you for the delivery information!!Tomorrow: Dover & Frankfort
Glad to hear that CAF apparently hasn't completely shut down...Tomorrow: Dover & Frankfort
I don't think that this delivery means we're any closer to the Star or Cardinal getting a ViewDiner. They've had enough cars to outfit those trains for many months. IMO, available equipment really is not the issue here, it's management.Looks like Albany is the only one missing. Good news, maybe the Star or Cardinal will get a Lounge. Some of the early deliverers are probably ready for a long maintenance, so good thing there are spares.
During Penn Station repairs:I don't think that this delivery means we're any closer to the Star or Cardinal getting a ViewDiner. They've had enough cars to outfit those trains for many months. IMO, available equipment really is not the issue here, it's management.
Won't be surprised if it is false either :giggle:I read on another forum that these cars are billed to go to storage. Not surprised, if true.
I personally don't think so, since the Regionals don't have sleepers and even the longest ones take no more than about 12.5 hours end to end.Does anyone else think there might be use for diners on Northeast Regional trains? They certainly have the greatest occupancy of any Amtrak routes, and plenty of people are on the trains for extended periods over meal times.
Back in the day, the Northeast trains did have full dining service. In the summer of 1975 I was a regular passenger on the Bankers, WAS TO BOS. I rode from PHL to NYP. It had a diner, and I was able to get served a full dinner between Trenton and Newark. I seem to remember they did a good business. Streamlined service - choice of fish, chicken or steak, prixe-fix with 2 veg, salad and roll. You filled out your order, all the waiter had to do was take your check, bring your food, and collect the money. It should work even better today, what with preplated. meals, but I think the eating public today wants more menu choices, which complicates things.I personally don't think so, since the Regionals don't have sleepers and even the longest ones take no more than about 12.5 hours end to end.
Oh yeah, the train I rode in the 70s was the Merchants Limited.Back in the day, the Northeast trains did have full dining service. In the summer of 1975 I was a regular passenger on the Bankers, WAS TO BOS. I rode from PHL to NYP. It had a diner, and I was able to get served a full dinner between Trenton and Newark. I seem to remember they did a good business. Streamlined service - choice of fish, chicken or steak, prixe-fix with 2 veg, salad and roll. You filled out your order, all the waiter had to do was take your check, bring your food, and collect the money. It should work even better today, what with preplated. meals, but I think the eating public today wants more menu choices, which complicates things.
Works for Amtrak, apparently. Said he: "when we know [about delivery], you'll know..."If it appeared on the internet, it must be true.
This is a point I have made repeatedly regarding the revenue allocated for the sleeper meals. Take a roomette for example, whether one or two persons occupy the roomette, the roomette cost which includes meals is the same. Thus, it would seem logical to allocate revenue for meals for two people whether or not two people actually occupy the room. Accordingly, when one person is occupying the room a substantial “profit” should be realized.What has not been explained by Amtrak is what amount of sleeper revenue is allocated to the F & B revenue. Is it a fixed amount for each sleeper passenger, or is it a fixed amount from what each passenger eats, or is it just the amount each sleeper passenger charges ? Depending on how charged has big effects on F&B revenue and some effect on how much the sleeper revenue is ? Our congress critters need to know !
That is one of the reasons why I thought the LSL was a bit of an odd choice for contemporary dining. They cut coach pax out of the dining experience when they account for 50% of diner customers, on a train which often runs with five or six coaches. Doesn't strike me as a particularly good choice.I'm going to repeat that half of the dining car customers on the LSL were from coach, before they started trashing dining service on the LSL PennCentral style.
If there was one competent person in management of Amtrak, they'd take advantage of this.
Don’t drink the trainDISorders kool-aid, it’s toxic.I read on another forum that these cars are billed to go to storage. Not surprised, if true.
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