BuzzKillington
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I heard rumors that the Pennsylvanian might be extended to Chicago sometime in 2011... possibly connected to the CL. Are there any truth to these rumors?
I'm not exactly sure what I really mean (but, then again, I never am )You mean like the Hi Level Transition Coaches that the Santa Fe had?
False. Amtrak would put the single level coaches between the bag and the trans dorm. No sleeper service between PHL and PIT. Also, Superliner equipment is too big for the Pennsy's route.This idea would require rescheduling of the Pennsylavanian and/or the CL. It would also require making the Pennsylvanian a Superliner train. A mixed consist would not be practical as it could not accomodate sleeper passengers looking to board in Philadelphia.
They were basically transition dorms, but were filled with coach seats. It's possible, but there isn't that much of a need for it.I'm not exactly sure what I really mean (but, then again, I never am )You mean like the Hi Level Transition Coaches that the Santa Fe had?
Just wondering what the options could be (even if they aren't now) of combining single level and Superliners together.
Maybe the bigger question is if Amtrak can look beyond the budget they now have to innovative ideas for the future. Combining the Pennsy and CL might look sensible for travelers, but does it make sense on the balance sheet. I defer that decision to a better mind than my own.False. Amtrak would put the single level coaches between the bag and the trans dorm. No sleeper service between PHL and PIT. Also, Superliner equipment is too big for the Pennsy's route.This idea would require rescheduling of the Pennsylavanian and/or the CL. It would also require making the Pennsylvanian a Superliner train. A mixed consist would not be practical as it could not accomodate sleeper passengers looking to board in Philadelphia.
They were basically transition dorms, but were filled with coach seats. It's possible, but there isn't that much of a need for it.I'm not exactly sure what I really mean (but, then again, I never am )You mean like the Hi Level Transition Coaches that the Santa Fe had?
Just wondering what the options could be (even if they aren't now) of combining single level and Superliners together.
Dave, just to be clear here, Amtrak already has what's called the Trans/Dorm. It's a car that allows one to transistion between Superliners & single level cars.Just have to wonder aloud if Amtrak has ever give thought to "transitional" coaches that would allow single-level and Superliners to connect without passengers changing cars.
That is not what the plan says.Wouldn't really make much sense to make PHL and NYP riders switch from sleeper to coach in Pittsburgh at 5 in the morning coming east.
Dave, read the report pointed to above. This is proposed to improve the financial performance of the Capitol Limited significantly.Maybe the bigger question is if Amtrak can look beyond the budget they now have to innovative ideas for the future. Combining the Pennsy and CL might look sensible for travelers, but does it make sense on the balance sheet. I defer that decision to a better mind than my own.
Read the report referred to above to see what the proposed schedule is. Not a huge major change. And it will not require the Pennsylvanian to be converted to Superliner. The Sleeper service from New York to Chicago on this section of the Cap would be in a Viewliner car.This idea would require rescheduling of the Pennsylavanian and/or the CL. It would also require making the Pennsylvanian a Superliner train. A mixed consist would not be practical as it could not accomodate sleeper passengers looking to board in Philadelphia.
I hardly doubt that there will be no extra costs.Amtrak came up with the absolutely brilliant idea of sticking two through cars from the Pennsylvanian onto the CL at Pittsburgh as part of the study into the CL's performance. If they decide to do that, it shouldn't take to long to be implemented, since the only major change is switching cars at Pittsburgh, it wouldn't need any new equipment or major interactions with freight railroads. IIRC, the biggest complication was constructing new trackage at Pittsburgh station.
It may be possible to run Superliner equipment from PHL through to CHI but obviously not to NYC. As far as I am aware the PHL to PGH route has no low clearance tunnels. As for combining the NYC-PGH train to the CL, that would mean that Sleeper passengers would need to detrain from coach and board a Superliner sleeper. It could be done but this would make for an extended stop at Pittsburgh.Amtrak would put the single level coaches between the bag and the trans dorm. No sleeper service between PHL and PIT. Also, Superliner equipment is too big for the Pennsy's route.
Why wouldn't you read the report first before going on and on about things that are not proposed in the report. Those guys have thought it through. You can give your brain a rest. They are not planning to run Superliners on the Pennsylvanian. They do not have extra Superliners to throw around for this purpose.It may be possible to run Superliner equipment from PHL through to CHI but obviously not to NYC. As far as I am aware the PHL to PGH route has no low clearance tunnels. As for combining the NYC-PGH train to the CL, that would mean that Sleeper passengers would need to detrain from coach and board a Superliner sleeper. It could be done but this would make for an extended stop at Pittsburgh.
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