Jan 2016 NEC/East Blizzard (was How does Amtrak handle snowstorms?)

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Oreius

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As you may or may not know, the potential exists for a major snowstorm to affect the Northeast Corridor and Keystone Corridor this Friday and Saturday. Some forecasts (which may be overhyped) call for blizzard conditions and 1-2 feet of snow. How does Amtrak deal with this type of weather? I have a trip scheduled from Elizabethtown, PA to New York Saturday, returning Sunday afternoon. Should I be concerned?
 
If the track is open, there is no reason for Amtrak to not run. Expect delays with snow.
 
I think a lot of these forecasts are overhyped; one local weather agency is saying Lancaster, PA could get 2-3 feet of snow. One radio station in Lancaster said 40 inches! I really don't think that will happen.
 
I leave E-Town at 7:37 AM Saturday. This is the first train of the day. When I come home Sunday, I'm taking the Pennsylvanian, which leaves NYP at 10:52 AM.
 
Amtrak is at the "mercy" of the host railroad they are traveling over. If the host RR shuts the line down, its shut down.
 
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It is the Host Railroad that makes the call on this, and I would imagine Amtrak is also quick to shut down the Northeast Corridor if conditions get dangerous.
 
I can only speak to the NEC between Washington and New York. If the snow gets bad they'll run about a half schedule. However they haven't completely shutdown for snow. I'm not sure about the Keystone corridor but they might cancel a train.
 
I'll put it this way. Last year pretty much this time too, I was traveling RTE-PHL. I got word my original train was axed. I took a one hour earlier train. There was a foot of snow that day and my Acela was running track speed.

On top of that the weather forecasters here are saying that the forecast is very unpredictable currently. It will either be rain or snow in the Philly to NY corridor. Right now I would take it as it comes and pay attention to the forecasts.
 
Believe that Amtrak reduces its schedule so there is not as much over the road switching. That way it can concentrate its signal maintainers at those points where crossovers essential for dispatch.
 
I think a lot of these forecasts are overhyped; one local weather agency is saying Lancaster, PA could get 2-3 feet of snow. One radio station in Lancaster said 40 inches! I really don't think that will happen.
You do understand the definition of the word "could", right? :huh: :giggle:
 
On top of that the weather forecasters here are saying that the forecast is very unpredictable currently. It will either be rain or snow in the Philly to NY corridor. Right now I would take it as it comes and pay attention to the forecasts.
For this storm, it doesn't look like rain is very likely. It's going to be snow, only question is how much. It's much more likely that the storm track far enough south/east that it misses entirely than it track north/west enough to give rain instead of snow for the corridor.
 
Believe that Amtrak reduces its schedule so there is not as much over the road switching. That way it can concentrate its signal maintainers at those points where crossovers essential for dispatch.
The simple fact is, snow USED to be a lot less of an issue, because the railroads had the staffing to deal with it.

Now, they don't, and it's a much bigger issue. Not as bad as the airlines, but still bad enough.
 
Accuweather's latest forecast calls for both Elizabethtown and Lancaster to get 2 feet of snow Friday and Saturday. I'm keeping my reservations until Thursday, but if they start issuing winter storm warnings I am not going to New York.
 
Loss of passengers unable to get to trains due to snow may also be reason to cancel some trains. Why run a train with 20% load factor ?
 
For the hearty 20%that actually made the trek and are expecting to get to their destination.
 
Loss of passengers unable to get to trains due to snow may also be reason to cancel some trains. Why run a train with 20% load factor ?
If there was only the origin and the terminal, you may have a point. But 1-2 feet of snow isn't debilitating. Not to mention, there are more stops in between, and also let's not forget the proper positioning of the equipment for the next run.
 
Right now as the weather is on, on the local ABC channel their models are looking between 6-18 inches and they said that it could change again up to 9 times. So I wouldn't expect a major shut down. More so as people will be trying to fly and those flights could get cancelled and Amtrak would be the only decent option.
 
My philosophy is always Expect the Worst and Prepare For The Worst. That way you minimize your chances of getting caught short in a worst case scenario and increase your chances of surviving.
 
My philosophy is always Expect the Worst and Prepare For The Worst. That way you minimize your chances of getting caught short in a worst case scenario and increase your chances of surviving.
Its a snow storm, in a climatologically usual region for a winter snowstorm, in a country that most people consider to be fairly civilized. Regardless of whether he stays or goes, I highly doubt he's going to run into a situation where Shackleton meets the passengers from Alive...
 
New York isn't supposed to get as much snow, but I'm afraid it could be enough to cause delays and closures, especially if services along the Keystone Corridor and Northeast Corridor are affected. I will make my final decision Thursday evening.
 
I'm also watching and taking a wait and see approach. As of now I'm planning my usual trip home to Baltimore this weekend but I'm slightly concerned that I'll have problems getting back to NY Sunday evening. I'll decide later this week, I guess.
 
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