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I know that the Coach Smokers are ex-coach baggage cars, but do they still utilize the baggage part as they still have the doors, or did they just never get around to changing them?
I looked into the smoker on my train, blah! the seats are those hard plastic transit bus seats...I could slightly smell the smoke even when the door was closed. I think that room was on the old coach we had, it had that southwesty look on the seat covers.Amfleet said:Actually, the baggage area is now where passengers go to blacken their lungs. I guess Beech Grove figured it wouldn't be worth it to remove the large door so they left it. The smoking just has about 10-12 uncomfortable seats on each wall facing inward with a couple ashtrays sattered about. It's very disgusting and very smelling and I would not want to spend my trip in there.
Allen,Allen Dee said:Which trains in other regions of the country have similar prohibitions, and which trains still have "smoking dungeons?"
I actually believe now that the Sunset is carrying a Coach Smoker because after the AT derailment more straight coaches were needed so the smokers went to the Sunset.the Sunset Limited are also non-smoking trains
I agree, but its better than actually smelling the smoke in the Amfleet II Lounge. B)Amfleet said:I agree with Steve. No I don't smoke and I think it is rather sick, but Amtrak probably gets revenue from smoking passegers who can't smoke on a plane or bus. However, I don't like a smoking room taking up half of an Amfleet II Lounge.
It's been a while since I looked into the smoking section of a Coach Smoker, but if I remeber right, the room is set up so that the door is blocked on the inside. Again, I'm not positive, but I think I've seen some where the baggage door was removed and replaced with a welded-on panel. I guess it probably depended on when the conversion was done.Viewliner said:I know that the Coach Smokers are ex-coach baggage cars, but do they still utilize the baggage part as they still have the doors, or did they just never get around to changing them?
Well, I know the Sunset Limited has a smoking dungeon. During a service stop, I reboarded on the stinky car which was one of the older Super 1 I figure; it was not nice like my Super II car.Allen Dee said:Which trains in other regions of the country have similar prohibitions, and which trains still have "smoking dungeons?"
Virgin Atlantic does allow smoking in a certain section of the plane, but that rule could have changed in the past 5 years. If smokers got desprate I'm sure the conductor could of led groups of 5 to the baggage car for a smoke. Also, isn't there a Coach Baggage on the Builder that could of been used during certain times of the day and the large doors could have then been opened at stops to let in fresh air. B)I wonder how smokers handle 8-10 hour flights across the ocean?
Amtrak would loose any and all insurance if they had conductors bringing people to the baggage car to smoke. So that won't be happening anytime soon, even if the conductor wanted to be that nice.Amfleet said:If smokers got desprate I'm sure the conductor could of led groups of 5 to the baggage car for a smoke. Also, isn't there a Coach Baggage on the Builder that could of been used during certain times of the day and the large doors could have then been opened at stops to let in fresh air. B)
Ever since last May the Sunset has been running with a Coach Smoking beacuse regualr Coach had to go to the Auto Train due to equipment shortages.As you may know this train is completely non smoking.
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