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The seats are attached by four bolts. It would be perceivable that they could come loose in a collision.Is it normal in this kind of accident for the seats to come loose?Thats the report I hear from the news, seems odd to me.
Not at 10:00 AM in the morning.Were they "driving" into the setting sun?
So that the engineer and the fireman can see out of the window. There are mirrors on the side of the engine so that they can see behind them. Normally only and engineer and maybe a fireman sit in the engine, but in this case it seems as though there may have been some training going on and therefore there were more people than normal in the engine. One has to wonder if the training or the number of people in the engine didn't have something to do with the crash.Why are there windows on the side of the engine? Who sits in there to see out? I have this great curiosity as to what exactly is in the engine car (besides the engine and the engineer).
It seems that they have a cart service on this train, much like they do on the Hiawatha service.If there were 3 coaches, why would there have been an LSA on board? Wouldn't that imply that one of the cars was a lounge?
To some extent, luck. The fact that it was coupled to the car directly behind also had some influence in keeping it upright. But if the colision forces had been greater, if something had caused the engine to tilt more, or had the coupler broken or uncoupled, then it would have almost certainly rolled over. And we can be thankful that didn't happen, as more than likely that would have led to far more serious injuries, especially for the crew of the engine.What would keep the engine from turning over on its side?
No, it is not normal, particularly at the speed involved. At this point we really do not know that they did. This was a statement by a passenger, and if you read news reports on train accidents, there are a lot of "eyewitness" and passenger statements that have a considerable divergance from reality. If there is truth here, then the question becomes how many, where, and why, because it should not have happened.Is it normal in this kind of accident for the seats to come loose?Thats the report I hear from the news, seems odd to me.
The full press release can be found here.Amtrak Train Strikes Norfolk Southern Freight Near Chicago
November 30, 2007
3 pm EDT
Amtrak customer care and investigative teams have arrived at the scene of an accident involving Amtrak train 371. The train, called the Pere Marquette, traveling from Grand Rapids, Mich. to Chicago struck a Norfolk Southern freight train at approximately 11:30 am CT, in south Chicago.
The locomotive of the Amtrak train derailed. The remainder of the train, which consists of one engine and three cars, is upright and on the rails. A total of 30 injuries have been reported. Among those, five serious injuries were to Amtrak crew members. There were 187 passengers and six crew members on board the train. Uninjured passengers and their personal effects are being bussed to their destination.
Concerned friends and family can call the passenger hotline at 800-523-9101.
Amtrak service between Michigan points and Chicago is currently suspended.
Passengers should call 800-USA-RAIL or visit Amtrak.com for specific information and train status updates.
This information is correct as of the date and time above and will be updated as needed.
If the first coach was 35008, then I suppose it's possible the LSA could have been selling food downstairs.It seems that they have a cart service on this train, much like they do on the Hiawatha service.If there were 3 coaches, why would there have been an LSA on board? Wouldn't that imply that one of the cars was a lounge?
This consist used the lower level of the snack coach which was the 1st car in the consist. The set up is loosely like the Superliner I lounge lower-level attendant area. The main benefit for the snack coaches HOT COFFEE!!!! Which a cart based attendant can't do.It seems that they have a cart service on this train, much like they do on the Hiawatha service.If there were 3 coaches, why would there have been an LSA on board? Wouldn't that imply that one of the cars was a lounge?
Why is it that the first thing that came to my mind was didn't that big Metra derailment a couple of years ago happen somewhat near the same place. I'll be interested to see what the factors that are viewed to be the cause of this wreck. I'm just glad there were no fatalities.
That will probably depend on how badly the frame was bent, and it does look like it might be bent at least bit. Most of the nose can easily be repaired.That's look really bad. I'm guessing that the locomotive is totaled.
this is from: http://railroadfan.com/phpbb/index.php (Lower Michigan Talk area)*PRELIMINARY* information was that the train was given a "restricted" signal before the accident located about Englewood (METRA Crossing)
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