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Was the Three Rivers had Heritage Coach Cars in the past?
The Lake Shore on New Years day of 1995 (the last time I rode it) if I remember correctly was using all Herritage Sleepers (including slumbercoaches), and a Herritage dome coach. the rest of the coaches and lounge was Amfleet I beleave. The Cardinal in the middle 80's was using all Herritage.Amtrak Railfan said:Was the Lake Shore Limited New York and Boston Trains used to have this cars?
The Amfleet IIs also have larger windows, which is a welcome change for the passenger trying to get a good view!P40Power said:The most noticeable difference between the cars is that Amfleet IIs have vestibule doors on only one side of the cars while Amfleet Is have them on both sides.
I think there is a couple reason behind Amfleet Is small windows. First; back in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s, the Northeast Corridor traversed through high-density, poverty stricken, and polluted industrial areas of the northeast. The designers probably thought that instead of passengers viewing the rundown streets and neighborhoods, that their focus out the window should be directed toward the sky and skylines of the passing cities. Secondly; there was a huge obsession with air travel at the time, so the tubular design, cramped seating, and tiny windows all together made the feel of being inside an aircraft.P40Power said:True, the Amfleet II cars have much better (bigger) windows then Amfleet I cars. That was my biggest issue riding the Capstone Business Class car last fall, was that the small window was awkward to look out of! Other then that the car was very very good. Horizon cars also have tiny windows.
Both Amfleet I and II cars do have problems with how seats line up in relation to windows, some seats arent even next to the window, they are positioned so all the passenger can see is a panel or a very tiny slice of window, that bugs me, I would have thought that they could have lined up the seating fairly nicely so everyone can get their fair share of window space.
Around June 2000. More people would understand if you said "Phase 4 Paint" and not "Blue Paint".Amtrak Railfan said:When was the first Diner Cars in the Blue Paint?
Trust me, with space at a premium during rush hour; Sunnyside isn't keeping anything that they can't use around. They need every inch of track that they can get. So unless it's been converted to a work car, you won't see any Heritage cars in Sunnyside.PennsyFan said:However, I don't know if they are even in Sunnyside Yard any more.
Really? Not even a Diner or a Dorm or even a baggage car? :lol: I know that at one time Hialeah had some Heritage junk linering around (old Slumbercoaches and Sleepers), but I think Gunn had that cleared out in January.Trust me, with space at a premium during rush hour; Sunnyside isn't keeping anything that they can't use around. They need every inch of track that they can get. So unless it's been converted to a work car, you won't see any Heritage cars in Sunnyside.
You've got to stop going to those Evelyn Wood speed reading classes. :lol: You missed the key phrase "that they can't use". They can use diners, dorms, and baggage cars; so they keep them around.battalion51 said:Really? Not even a Diner or a Dorm or even a baggage car? :lol: I know that at one time Hialeah had some Heritage junk linering around (old Slumbercoaches and Sleepers), but I think Gunn had that cleared out in January.Trust me, with space at a premium during rush hour; Sunnyside isn't keeping anything that they can't use around. They need every inch of track that they can get. So unless it's been converted to a work car, you won't see any Heritage cars in Sunnyside.
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