crew change points

[access bob]

couple few years back Trains Magazine (I think) had a map and list of all of the Amtrak crew change points. does anyone know where to find a copy or know all the crew change points on Amtrak??

Thanks

Bob

 

[the_traveler]

It's not 100%, but if the schedule shows a separate Ar and Dp time of 15-20 minutes between them, most likely that is a crew change point.

 

[access bob]

It's not 100%, but if the schedule shows a separate Ar and Dp time of 15-20 minutes between them, most likely that is a crew change point.

I guessed as much but I can't imagine a single engineer runs the Coast starlight from Portland to Emeryville withouta crew change

Bob

 

[SeaCascades]

It's not 100%, but if the schedule shows a separate Ar and Dp time of 15-20 minutes between them, most likely that is a crew change point.

I guessed as much but I can't imagine a single engineer runs the Coast starlight from Portland to Emeryville withouta crew change

Bob

Isn't Sacramento a service stop? Seems like it used to be.

 

[p&sr]

Isn't Sacramento a service stop? Seems like it used to be.

Maybe Klamath Falls too.

 

[the_traveler]

Most train crews (engineer and conductor) switch every 6-8 hours (due to the hours of service limits and a little padding). So you may see the Ar and Dp times at about that point!

 

[daveyb99]

It's not 100%, but if the schedule shows a separate Ar and Dp time of 15-20 minutes between them, most likely that is a crew change point.

I know the Texas Eagle changes engine and conductor crew in MHL with ZERO station time allotted.

 

[Grill Master]

I know the Texas Eagle changes engine and conductor crew in MHL with ZERO station time allotted.

I remember watching the Cardinal crew swap out in Huntington with no time showing on the schedule. And while ago I was on the Pennsylvanian that swapped out somewhere in IN that wasn't a station stop.

 

[the_traveler]

And while ago I was on the Pennsylvanian that swapped out somewhere in IN that wasn't a station stop.

That must have been something, because AFAIK, the Pennsylvanian only went to PGH. The Three Rivers and Broadway Limited went to IN!

 

[AlanB]

And while ago I was on the Pennsylvanian that swapped out somewhere in IN that wasn't a station stop.

That must have been something, because AFAIK, the Pennsylvanian only went to PGH. The Three Rivers and Broadway Limited went to IN!

No for a number of years during the Warrington/Express Trak era, the Pennsy did run all the way to Chicago. West of Pittsburgh it followed the route of the Capitol Limited.

 

[Grill Master]

And while ago I was on the Pennsylvanian that swapped out somewhere in IN that wasn't a station stop.

That must have been something, because AFAIK, the Pennsylvanian only went to PGH. The Three Rivers and Broadway Limited went to IN!

Now that you mention Im not sure what train it was. It was back in 2001, went from PHL to CHI, after PGH it ran over CSX.

 

[Acela150]

If the train changed crews in the middle of no where the train must have been late.

Klamath Falls is a crew change point.

I think if you call Trains magazine they can send you a back issue of it.

I know in the NEC the crew change points are RVR,WAS, and NYP.

 

[access bob]

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I think if you call Trains magazine they can send you a back issue of it.

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you have to know which issue, and the index doesn't show it or I can't find the right words to get the search engine to spit it out

Bob

 

[Grill Master]

If the train changed crews in the middle of no where the train must have been late.

It wasn't in the middle of nowhere, there was a parking lot there. It just wasn't a station stop.

 

[the_traveler]

If the train changed crews in the middle of no where the train must have been late.

It wasn't in the middle of nowhere, there was a parking lot there. It just wasn't a station stop.

I remember once a few years ago, I was on the LSL that had a loco die on us. So we limped into a freight yard west of Erie about 5 AM. Due to the hours of service limits, the crew died. So we sat ... and sat ... and sat ... and ... until they brought in a new crew!

I could have had breakfast AND lunch IN THE SAME PLACE! (The LSL ended up being 9 hours late by the time it got to BOS!)

 

[AmtrakWPK]

Orlando has separate Arr and Dep times (usually a 15-20 minute stop), but that's because of the high volume of passengers - it is not a crew change point.

 

[AlanB]

I know in the NEC the crew change points are RVR,WAS, and NYP.

You missed one, New Haven. Only Acela, which of course doesn't run south of WAS (hence no change at RVR), doesn't have a crew change at NHV.

 

[amtrak_russ]

I know the Capital Limited's Crew Changes, they are at Toledo, Ohio, and Pittsburgh, PA. I'd assume the Lake Shore conducts Crew Changes at Toledo, Ohio, Buffalo, NY and Albany, NY? Correct me if I am wrong about the LSL as the last time i took it i was only 6 months old. As for the Michigan Services... The Pere Marquette should be able to make it on one crew but if they have to switch it usually comes at Hammond/Whiting, IN. The Blue Water and Wolverines switch engineers at Battle Creek, MI, but the conductors continue to the terminus, the engineer will sit in Battle Creek and wait for the next trip back to where they terminated (Chicago, Pontiac, and Port Huron).

 

[profwebs]

Yep engineers change in Pittsburgh. I talked to the one who got off in Pitt for a few minutes last night when we got in. He did a great job on the capitol limited getting us into pgh only 3 minutes late

 

[AlanB]

I've also seen crew changes on the Capitol Limited at Cumberland Md.

And that sounds right for the LSL.

 

[had8ley]

IF I had Amtrak engine seniority I would bid on San Antonio to Austin on #22 and return that night on #21 or Meridian to NOL with Saturdays off. It's a six day job but when you come in from New Orleans, after only running 4 hours and staying overnight, you are off from 11 a.m. Friday until 3 p.m. Sunday. There's another cush job from Charlottsville, Va to DC and return that night. I'm sure there are other jobs just as good.