Line Numbers/Consist Listings

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pianocat

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Are the Consists on pg. 1 of this thread accurate and current? Especially interested in CONO, SWC, CS, and EB for this summer. Also, am I reading this right.....my SPK-CHI rez. on EB has me in [PDX] sleeper car 2830. According to the consist on pg. 1, that sleeper is literally sandwiched between 2 coach cars, and looks like it'll be a pretty long hike to the Dining car, too. Would it be worth calling and asking if there's a roomette in one of the [sEA] sleepers in order to avoid that sort of trek for every meal?
 

Bob Dylan

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The #2830 Sleeper is the Portland Section sleeper and is on the end of the train with 2 Portland coaches, the Sighseer Lounge(runs from PDX-SPK on the #28 Section) and the Diner (runs on the #8 SEA-CHI Section) before you reach the SEA Sleepers on the front of the Train!

Since there often is a difference in price between the two Sections I'd go with the lowest price and enjoy the exercise on the Looooong walk to the Diner if your in the #28 Sleeper!
 
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pianocat

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Jim, I'm using AGR points, so a price increase is irrelevant. Aside from the exercise [which will be welcome on that part of the journey], any other advantage to being tacked onto the back end of the train?
 

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Lots of people like that the rail fan window is on your car, that the foot traffic is less than in the revenue sleepers and that the whistle doesn't blow at night!

The disadvantage is that you'll probably get last call on meal times when the LSA takes reservations and the car does sway and move more without another car behind it!

Since you're using AGR Points and cost is not a factor I'd say choose whichever appeals to you all things considered!
 

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I'm sorry to note that Donctor will no longer be maintaining the consist listing in Post 1. We thank him for his work.

We'll leave the topic pinned for now, but if the info becomes inaccurate, it will be unpinned.
 
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I'm sorry to note that Donctor will no long be maintaining the consist listing in Post 1. We thank him for his work.

We'll leave the topic pinned for now, but if the info becomes inaccurate, it will be unpinned.
Thanks so much Donctor for your years of service to this thread!
 

Ryan

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Thanks for keeping this updated for so long.

Is there any way one of us can access the data and keep this material updated?
 

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Ditto. Even without "inside information", I'm still sure we could update it as we get new information.
 

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The first post of this thread has been a very valuable resource to this community. Please allow someone to take over for Donctor and his many years of maintaining this for us.

If this is not done, I may very well create a page with this information on my personal website for everyone to use, though would need lots of input to keep it updated.

As others have said, thanks to Donctor for providing this info for us for so long.
 

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I think I asked about this a few weeks ago, [apologies if it's duplicate info. which I cannot find again]. Maybe I just thought I asked..... I'm reserved on 58 from CDL to CHI in car 5800, and car 5900 on the return trip. According to the consist list on page 1 - I'd be sleeping in the Dining Car!!! :blink: :blink: Anyone have a clue if the sleeper and Dining Car numbers have been reversed since this list was last maintained? [btw, another thanks to Donctor for providing this!]
 

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I think I asked about this a few weeks ago, [apologies if it's duplicate info. which I cannot find again]. Maybe I just thought I asked..... I'm reserved on 58 from CDL to CHI in car 5800, and car 5900 on the return trip. According to the consist list on page 1 - I'd be sleeping in the Dining Car!!! :blink: :blink: Anyone have a clue if the sleeper and Dining Car numbers have been reversed since this list was last maintained? [btw, another thanks to Donctor for providing this!]
Looks like a typo. You'll notice the other consists do not have car #s for the diner. There's probably two sleepers and one of them is the 5800/5900.
 

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Or maybe Amtrak is amending the dining car menu to include turkey dinners, which would put anyone promptly to sleep (even in the dining car).
 

pianocat

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Betty, I think you're right about the typo. So I should be right behind the Transdorm. As long as I head to the north end of the platform, someone will direct me to the right place! chakk, last Christmas on the SWC we were served turkey dinners as a holiday treat [i had them hold the turkey] Was a nice change of pace.
 

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Your sleepers will be the revenue Sleeper that will be behind the Transdorm and in front of the Diner(Cross Country Cafe),unless they go to the Winter consistbwhere the Sleeping car is on the end of the train behind the Coaches!

You should be fine and not have to sleep under a table! LOL
 
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pianocat

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This is a question mostly out of idle curiosity..... Why are all the line numbers paired, like 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8 but CS is 14/11! Why not 11/12?
 

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Those aren't line numbers, those are train numbers. Line numbers are the numbers of the individual cars in the train.

The Coast Starlight is 11/14 because back in the SP days, trains running to San Francisco had odd numbers, trains running away from San Francisco had even numbers. So a train that ran through SF used two numbers in one direction, and two the other direction.
 

pianocat

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Makes sense. So it has nothing to do with including the number *13* at all? Ok, so why the big jump in numbers from one LD train to another after the CS?
 

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Some folks in California think that if they ever start the Daylighter again between LAX and SFO ( actually Oakland/Emeryville) they will use #12 and #13 like SP used to do when they ran multiple trains ( The Lark, Coast Daylight etc)on this route! Ryan explained the gap in numbering while I was Posting!
 

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Thanks for the info. Interesting! Think I understand all this now.
 

PaulM

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Asf of 11/9/14 and 11/14/14, CZ sleepers were back up front behind the transdorm.
 
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