The cars smoking room dose vent very well, however If you walk by it it appears that a person could smoke in there with out cigerette. There is alot of smoke within that small the room.battalion51 said:I personally think baggage coaches are very useful. For passengers travelling to unstaffed stations their bags can be stowed in there, and unloaded easily by the Conductor or TA at the other station stop. Although they could just leave the rooms as is, and stow bags in there, just have to retrieve them from the inside instead of the outside. As far as lounges in general go, they can be ventilated properly, they did them right with the Amfleet II's and Auto Train Lounges, I think the key is the automatic door, and ventilating it right. Get in an AT or Amfleet II Lounge, and you would never know people are smoking up a storm in that very car.
I am a smoker, but I agree with JC that smoking should banned on all Amtrak trains. I recently took a trip from Santa Barbara to the bay-area and Reno. Only train # 5 had a smoking lounge, and there were no passengers seated on the upper level. I have no problem with waiting a few hours for a scheduled smoke stop.jccollins said:Amtrak definitely made a good call in getting rid of the smoking cars! Yes, finally some GOOD news! The entire Superliner coach car with the smoking downstairs on the California Zephyr has really been a waste over the last year since the crew never seats anyone in the section above it unless the train is completely full. The smoke was HORRIBLE in the coach above the smoking car, and the crews and passengers often tried to jam the automatic door open so they could breathe in there. They should sterilize the smoking room and just install lower level seating down there... or how about a few kiddie cars like the Starlight has/used to have?
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