amamba
Engineer
Looks like most NE corridor stuff will be up and running tomorrow!
It is there in the Amtrak advisory pointed to above. Here is the pertinent section quoted from it:Why doesn't Amtrak have the Card on their list of cancelled trains?
Service remains suspended for these routes or segments:
- * Northeast Regional trains west of Richmond (Staples Mill) to and from Newport News, Va.
* Empire Service trains east of Albany/Rensselaer, to and from Buffalo/Niagara Falls
* Lake Shore Limited (Trains 48/448 & 49/449), Chicago-New York/Boston
* Cardinal (Trains 50 & 51), east of Indianapolis, to and from Washington/New York
* Maple Leaf (Trains 63 & 64), east of Niagara Falls, to and from Albany/New York
* Carolinian (Trains 79 & 80) between New York and Selma-Smithfield, N.C.
* Palmetto (Trains 89 & 90), New York-Savannah
* Ethan Allen Express (Trains 290 & 291), New York-Rutland, Vt
With quite probably the worst flooding on record in many locations, it is unfortunately, not a surprise. (Do a Google video search on Vermont flooding, to get an idea) It is likely that much of the work done this summer was swept away in no time. I wonder how this will impact the Ethan Allen, both in the short term -as in service restoration - and in the long term - the extension to Burlington.And the return of Vermonter was delayed a bit...NECR estimates that it'll take six weeks, at the very least, to repair the track north of White River Junction. Two bridges damaged, as well as several sections of a thousand feet or more of track with no roadbed left. Vermonter service was supposed to resume on September 18, it's now been suspended indefinitely. Presumably the bustitution will be extended. (source was a Trains Magazine article behind a paywall)
Wimps.. :lol:SEPTA is bustituting Levittown-Trenton starting tomorrow... wonder what's impeding them.
Yes, I happen to know that first-hand, I don't need videos.With quite probably the worst flooding on record in many locations, it is unfortunately, not a surprise. (Do a Google video search on Vermont flooding, to get an idea)And the return of Vermonter was delayed a bit...NECR estimates that it'll take six weeks, at the very least, to repair the track north of White River Junction. Two bridges damaged, as well as several sections of a thousand feet or more of track with no roadbed left. Vermonter service was supposed to resume on September 18, it's now been suspended indefinitely. Presumably the bustitution will be extended. (source was a Trains Magazine article behind a paywall)
Freight service was supposed to resume Whitehall-Rutland last night, so I imagine the Ethan Allen should resume service along the entire route fairly soon. As for Burlington, the effects of this storm will have been long since cleaned up by the time that's got a decent shot at finally starting.I wonder how this will impact the Ethan Allen, both in the short term -as in service restoration - and in the long term - the extension to Burlington.
Unbelievable the amount of rumors flying around here. What will happen is: The line will be rebuilt and it will NOT take months to do it either! I am a conductor for NJT and we already officially know that starting Monday or possibly sooner there SHOULD be trains running from Pt. Jervis to Harriman, with a bus bridge to Ramsey rt. 17 station. This is not set in stone but the most likely scenario until the line is completely fixed in approx 4-6 weeks. No one is abandoning anything!!
Obviously the physical damage to the tracks will be cleaned up soon. I was probably not clear, but I was referring to the fiscal damage to the state, and if there will be state money available to extend the Ethen Allen due to the enormous costs the state has and will incur due to the damage.With quite probably the worst flooding on record in many locations, it is unfortunately, not a surprise. (Do a Google video search on Vermont flooding, to get an idea)And the return of Vermonter was delayed a bit...NECR estimates that it'll take six weeks, at the very least, to repair the track north of White River Junction. Two bridges damaged, as well as several sections of a thousand feet or more of track with no roadbed left. Vermonter service was supposed to resume on September 18, it's now been suspended indefinitely. Presumably the bustitution will be extended. (source was a Trains Magazine article behind a paywall)Yes, I happen to know that first-hand, I don't need videos.
Most folks don't. I'm not sure that having a front row seat is a good thing for what has happened. I use to live in Wilmington, VT and it fills me with great sadness to see the damage.
Freight service was supposed to resume Whitehall-Rutland last night, so I imagine the Ethan Allen should resume service along the entire route fairly soon. As for Burlington, the effects of this storm will have been long since cleaned up by the time that's got a decent shot at finally starting.I wonder how this will impact the Ethan Allen, both in the short term -as in service restoration - and in the long term - the extension to Burlington.
What is going on is that Trenton is currently operating with several spiked switches, i.e. they are spiked in one direction, pending replacement of switch machines. Most of these at the west end of Fair interlocking I believe. This forces certain ops to be impossible, among which is getting the SEPTA trains into the side platform. It will get fixed in due time as recovery completes over the next few days.SEPTA is bustituting Levittown-Trenton starting tomorrow... wonder what's impeding them.
Obviously the physical damage to the tracks will be cleaned up soon. I was probably not clear, but I was referring to the fiscal damage to the state, and if there will be state money available to extend the Ethen Allen due to the enormous costs the state has and will incur due to the damage.
I'm not positive about this, but I think the Federal money would be used to take the tracks up to pax standards. The state will need to contribute a very significant percentage of the $ for the day to day operations, just as they do now for both the Vermonter and the existing Ethan Allen service.Obviously the physical damage to the tracks will be cleaned up soon. I was probably not clear, but I was referring to the fiscal damage to the state, and if there will be state money available to extend the Ethen Allen due to the enormous costs the state has and will incur due to the damage.
The plan has, as far as I know, always been to use federal money for the extension, so I wouldn't think the damage would have a significant impact.
On a more immediate note, it seems the Ethan Allen resumed today, according to this. Although the article does seem to think Rutland is in Connecticutt, not sure about that.
The HSIPR fiscal year grants will likely continue to require 20% state matching funds. So VT or the railroad would have to put up some state money, unless the Jefford's earmark funding somehow qualifies as matching funds, if there are future rounds of HSIPR grants. It has been posted the VT is planning to apply for a FY2011 TIGER grant for much of the Rutland to Burlington extension costs as the track upgrades will also benefit freight rail, but I don't know what the rules are for state/other source matching funds are for the FY11 TIGER grants.I'm not positive about this, but I think the Federal money would be used to take the tracks up to pax standards. The state will need to contribute a very significant percentage of the $ for the day to day operations, just as they do now for both the Vermonter and the existing Ethan Allen service.The plan has, as far as I know, always been to use federal money for the extension, so I wouldn't think the damage would have a significant impact.
On a more immediate note, it seems the Ethan Allen resumed today, according to this. Although the article does seem to think Rutland is in Connecticutt, not sure about that.
Rutland got washed OVER the mountains and all the way down into Connecticut? DANG! :lol: :lol:On a more immediate note, it seems the Ethan Allen resumed today, according to this. Although the article does seem to think Rutland is in Connecticutt, not sure about that.
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