Seaboard92
Engineer
Another route that seems to come up a lot in discussions is the three C route from Cleveland to Cincinnati via Columbus. The best way to hit this route in my opinion is to run the Empire Corridor via Buffalo. And the train I'm proposing isn't a long day train but an overnight train. Hopefully an overnight train that will then be supplemented with state supported three C service. While the state supported day trains would connect hopefully into the Lake Cities that the other thread is discussing at the moment in Cleveland. Giving the passengers along the route two options for NY-OH service. Going west the train connects to all of the Southeastern trains except for No. 90, and No. 80, as well as Train No. 137 from Boston. Headed east it connects with all of the Southeastern service except for No. 89, and No. 79. And the other advantages to the times on this going west you really don't need a dining car because it only runs during one meal period. Coming east it is only during two meal periods. But the early arrival into New York most passengers will probably just get breakfast in New York. So one could run the train without a diner. It also gives the Empire corridor a night service that gets in before the business day. It also puts Cleveland in a great time slot for business trips from New York. The times also work well for intrastate travel in Ohio. Depending how fast the train could be turned in Cincinnati it could be doable with only two sets of equipment. Even though a four hour turn I would advocate for three sets. If Ohio would get their what I'm going to call the Buckeye Corridor running this would allow them to base it in Cincinnati and run a morning train to Cleveland, and an evening train back from Cleveland. Here is food for thought. Also the times from CLE-CIN are using the current infrastructure on CSX and NS employee timetables. The CSX line is maintained for passenger service still according to their timetable. All EX New York Central Track. Times are in the Afternoon.
Schedule West
Tr No. 47
DP New York 0807
DP Croton Harmon 0853
DP Poughkeepsie 0935
DP Rhinecliff 0950
AR Albany 1040
DP Albany 1055
DP Schenectady 1123
DP Utica 1239
DP Syracuse 0140
DP Rochester 0300
AR Buffalo 0345
DP Buffalo 0350
DP Erie 0540
AR Cleveland 0700
DP Cleveland 0730
DP Wellington 0808
DP Galion (Mansfield) 0842
DP Delaware 0914
AR Columbus 0947
DP Columbus 0955
DP Springfield 1040
DP Dayton 1105
DP Middletown 1131
AR Cincinnati 1202
Schedule East
Tr No. 46
DP Cincinnati 0343
DP Middletown 0414
DP Dayton 0440
DP Springfield 0505
AR Columbus 0550
DP Columbus 0600
DP Delaware 0634
DP Galion (Mansfield) 0706
DP Wellington 0740
AR Cleveland 0820
DP Cleveland 0830
DP Erie 1000
AR Buffalo 1140
DP Buffalo 1145
DP Rochester 1245
DP Syracuse 0215
DP Utica 0315
DP Schenectady 0448
AR Albany 0518
DP Albany 0532
DP Rhinecliff 0617
DP Poughkeepsie 0631
DP Croton Harmon 0711
AR New York 0811
I would love your opinions on this one.
Schedule West
Tr No. 47
DP New York 0807
DP Croton Harmon 0853
DP Poughkeepsie 0935
DP Rhinecliff 0950
AR Albany 1040
DP Albany 1055
DP Schenectady 1123
DP Utica 1239
DP Syracuse 0140
DP Rochester 0300
AR Buffalo 0345
DP Buffalo 0350
DP Erie 0540
AR Cleveland 0700
DP Cleveland 0730
DP Wellington 0808
DP Galion (Mansfield) 0842
DP Delaware 0914
AR Columbus 0947
DP Columbus 0955
DP Springfield 1040
DP Dayton 1105
DP Middletown 1131
AR Cincinnati 1202
Schedule East
Tr No. 46
DP Cincinnati 0343
DP Middletown 0414
DP Dayton 0440
DP Springfield 0505
AR Columbus 0550
DP Columbus 0600
DP Delaware 0634
DP Galion (Mansfield) 0706
DP Wellington 0740
AR Cleveland 0820
DP Cleveland 0830
DP Erie 1000
AR Buffalo 1140
DP Buffalo 1145
DP Rochester 1245
DP Syracuse 0215
DP Utica 0315
DP Schenectady 0448
AR Albany 0518
DP Albany 0532
DP Rhinecliff 0617
DP Poughkeepsie 0631
DP Croton Harmon 0711
AR New York 0811
I would love your opinions on this one.