PacificStarlight
Train Attendant
So how about an idea of ST modifying one or two of its coahes to include a starbucks. I don't know if the economical output would be favorible, but it always sounded like a good idea to me.
Chicago's Metra used to have cafe cars on selected rush hour trains, but they've all been eliminated last I knew.That said, is there ANY commuter service in the US that offers on-board food/beverage service? (Not counting certain Amtrak corridorsthat are de facto commuter services). I'm certainly not aware of any.
I don't think it's a Pandora's Box as you say. Sound Transit operates buses, Sounder, and Link. They could allow eating on Sounder while still prohibiting it on the buses and Link.Second, while Sound Transit allows beverages in closed containers, they don't permit eating. I'd imagine a coffee chain like Starbuckswould greatly prefer to sell scones/muffins etc in addition to their beverages, so either Sound Transit would have to change its policy
(which would open a Pandora's Box) or the coffee chain would have to agree to just sell beverages.
I want real coffee; not the burnt bean stuff that they serve.
Yup not crazy about Charbucks here either.I want real coffee; not the burnt bean stuff that they serve.
Okay, "Pandora's Box" may be a bit of an overstatement. What I meant is that if they allowed food purchased from an on-board Starbucks, they'd alsoWhile I agree with the rest of what you wrote, I respectfully disagree with the following:I don't think it's a Pandora's Box as you say. Sound Transit operates buses, Sounder, and Link. They could allow eating on Sounder while still prohibiting it on the buses and Link.Second, while Sound Transit allows beverages in closed containers, they don't permit eating. I'd imagine a coffee chain like Starbuckswould greatly prefer to sell scones/muffins etc in addition to their beverages, so either Sound Transit would have to change its policy
(which would open a Pandora's Box) or the coffee chain would have to agree to just sell beverages.
Didn't know about the Cannon Ball Express, though from the LIRR website it appears that's fairly limited in scope. I had also forgotten about the bar cars. CertainlyBeyond that, the only other commuter service that I know of which provides any sort of beverage service is the NY City services. The New Haven division of Metro North puts bar cars on a couple of selected trains to New Haven each rush hour. And during the summer months, the LIRR runs the special Cannon Ball Express, where one can pay an extra $20 or so for a seat in a special car that has drinks available.
So True! Down here in the Peoples Republic of Austin where there are so Many Mom and Pop Coffee and Pastry Shops, only Yankees and Californians will Pay $5-$7 for a Bad Cup of So Called Coffee! :giggle:I want real coffee; not the burnt bean stuff that they serve.
same here. i jsut said starbucks, becuase of the fact that it seems that everyone up here loves it. Im not a fan myself. Last monday i was railfanning at king street. and I noticed that when i went to Tullys 3 police officers were the only people in there, while starbucks across the path had a 15 person line with standing room only. Go figure.So True! Down here in the Peoples Republic of Austin where there are so Many Mom and Pop Coffee and Pastry Shops, only Yankees and Californians will Pay $5-$7 for a Bad Cup of So Called Coffee! :giggle:I want real coffee; not the burnt bean stuff that they serve.
You didn't say what "commuter service meant", so.......Golden Gate Ferry (operated by the Golden Gate Bridge board) has food and beverage sales on its commuter ferries. I think that a lot of commuter ferries would do this. On rails it might be another matter. I take Caltrain a lot, and they're very liberal in regards to what can be consumed on board, but they don't sell anything. I mean - conductors told me stories of people bringing hard liquor and knocking back shots, sometimes followed by vomiting in the vestibules. I haven't seen that, but I've seen groups with 12-packs of beer.Beyond that, the only other commuter service that I know of which provides any sort of beverage service is the NY City services. The New Haven division of Metro North puts bar cars on a couple of selected trains to New Haven each rush hour. And during the summer months, the LIRR runs the special Cannon Ball Express, where one can pay an extra $20 or so for a seat in a special car that has drinks available.
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