I would agree, except for restaurant waitstaff which legally are paid under minimum wage and therefore tips are expected.No offense, but don't these people get paid a salary to do all of the things that they expect a tip for? "Everyone wants a tip!" these days and I truly hate tipping!
No.Amtrak officials - are you LISTENING?
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Agreed!!! I tend to tip the waiters and waitresses on Amtrak a little more than I would a restaurant because they have such long hours and have to be away from their families for so long. I don't know many restaurants where you have to work 6AM to 10PM with short breaks between periods for upto 6 days in a row!Yes the thread is 5 years old! I'm surprised an "old fogey" caught that!
A couple of points I would like to make. The food is not reheated in a microwave. Amtrak uses convection ovens, and some food is cooked to order.
Also, yes they do get a decent salary, but how many servers at land based restaurants work from 6 AM to 9 or 10 PM, sleep a few hours and do it all over again?And how many servers of land based restaurants have to deal with "an earthquake" while serving every meal?And how many servers of land based restaurants are away from there families for up to a week at a time, not being able to go home after their 8-hour shift?
George was our LSA on the Texas Eagle/Sunset Limited on a trip my uncle and I took in August. He is indeed an excellent LSA and well worthy of the generous tips I gave him.If you travel a lot and tip good -- THEY REMEMBER YOU!
I had an excellent LSA in the diner (George) on the Sunset Limited back on a trip I did in March 2010 from New Orleans to Los Angeles. I ran into him again on the Southwest Chief on a trip I did last month... and he remembered me 6 months later! I am sure it was because I tipped well and we have some nice long talks on #1, but it's cool they remember you -- you get treated a lot better.
You forgot the managers and the CEO. The latter should get $100K or so as a tip.These people bust their asses to serve you. The Wait staff, Engineers, Conductors, and Porters all work hard to please you. You need to plan on spending $20 for every person that serves you and then throw a $20 to the Engineer and Conductor, each!
$5 per day PER PERSON...Usually about $5 per day, depending on how is the attendant doing....
IMHO, it isn't cheap, but rather simply appropriate.I think leaving $1 for breakfast/lunch and $2 for dinner is being a little "cheap".
I mean the typical breakfast I get on Amtrak is the omlet meal ($9) with juice ($2) and coffee ($2). If ALWAYS go in a sleeper, but if I was in coach and was paying for that -- it would be like $13. A $1 tip would only be about an 8 percent tip! Likewise for dinner... if you got steak ($21)... a beverage ($2)... and desset ($5)... you would end up paying like $28. A $2 tip is like 8 percent as well.
As far as I know, generosity is determined by the relative sacrifice of the giver and not the relative benefit to the receiver.As far as I know, Amtrak employees are not paid less than minimum wage. If you did not receive any beyond the typical service, you really owe them nothing extra. So, even a buck or two is really being generous.
And your counter falls apart because you're comparing a typical land based waiter to an Amtrak waiter.As far as I know, Amtrak employees are not paid less than minimum wage. That is where your example completely falls apart. Tips are way to add a bit of an extra "thank you" beyond what you are already paying them, but nothing more. If you did not receive any beyond the typical service, you really owe them nothing extra. So, even a buck or two is really being generous.
The whole argument is meaningless unless one knows what the waiter is paid and the pay rules. If it is close to minimum wage, then a good tip is in order. If it is $50K a year (plus Amtrak gives good benefits), that is a different story. If the waiters are compensated by the hour, then they get paid for those long hours and get time off between trips to make up for having to work long days just like firefighters who are on duty for 48 hours then go off for a period of time.And your counter falls apart because you're comparing a typical land based waiter to an Amtrak waiter.As far as I know, Amtrak employees are not paid less than minimum wage. That is where your example completely falls apart. Tips are way to add a bit of an extra "thank you" beyond what you are already paying them, but nothing more. If you did not receive any beyond the typical service, you really owe them nothing extra. So, even a buck or two is really being generous.
When was the last time you saw a land based waiter waiting on a table while the resturant was rocking and rolling at nearly 80 MPH? When was the last time you knew of a land based waiter who worked from 6:00 AM to 11:00 PM, working all three meals of the day? When was the last time you knew of land based waiter who didn't go home after their shift to sleep in their own bed? When was the last time you saw a resturant without bus boys to help clear the tables? When was the last time you had a waiter that was trained in emergency evacuation procedures?
Yes, Amtrak employees make more in wages than do land based employees, but their job is a whole lot harder and it also comes with some major penalties as it were, like not being able to go home to their own beds every night after work.
It doesn't matter what they report as they get taxed on theoretical tips regardless. Not to mention that I know plenty of folks who don't receive tips and yet don't report all their income or pay all their taxes.Unlike any nice restaurant where nearly all tips are added to credit cards and are therefore recorded and taxed, I wonder how many Amtrak waiters report all their income.
You need to report those people. You owe it to your country!I know plenty of folks who don't receive tips and yet don't report all their income or pay all their taxes.
I agree with PRR 60 that tipping varies per passenger. I've tipped SCA's nothing, and I've tipped them $20.00 and everywhere in between. I try to leave a $1-2 on the diner table for breakfast and lunch and maybe $3-4 dollars at dinner.Ask one hundred rail travelers about onboard tipping and you will get one hundred different answers. Here’s my two cents (figuratively, not my tipping suggestion).
First, note the quality of service you receive. The onboard service staff gets paid a decent wage (unlike restaurants, for example) so they actually make out well even without tips. Don’t hesitate to tip very little or nothing if the service is poor (and sadly that happens on Amtrak). On the other hand, be sure to reward the staff people who perform well. Tipping a poor server the same as a good one is really an affront to the good one. It will make the good server wonder why they bother to go over and above if the drone is making out just as well.
So what is a reasonable tip? I would say $10 per room per night for the car attendant is right for good service. They have to work just about as hard to service a single in a room as a double, so in my mind the tip should reflect the room, not the number of occupants. And even if you have a Superliner Roomette with no toilet, the attendant is the one keeping the common facilities clean. If they are kept clean, and if your room is serviced properly and timely, they should be rewarded. Double that tip is you have meals served to you in the room.
In the dining car, the typical 15 to 20% of the tab is appropriate. With sleeping car passengers getting free meals, that requires some math. At breakfast and lunch, the typical entry is $8, beverage is $2, and dessert (lunch only, I hope) is $4. At dinner the typical entree is $17, beverage (non-alcoholic) is $2, and dessert is $4. So figure breakfast at $10, lunch at $14, and dinner at $23. My tip would be $2 per person at breakfast, $2.50 at lunch, and $4 at dinner. More if you buy beer or wine (not free).
If I thought the money would be used for something worthwhile like funding better passenger rail I just might. But looking at the makeup of this next wave of anti-rail politicians about to be elected I really don't see the point. The only thing they'd do with the money hand it over to sleazy no-bid contractors like they did the last time they were in charge.You need to report those people. You owe it to your country!I know plenty of folks who don't receive tips and yet don't report all their income or pay all their taxes.
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