Another example of "airport acrobatics" is Washington National Airport. Due to the restricted airspace over DC and the Pentagon, aircraft must do much twists and turns and follow the Potomac River when taking off or landing on the north. And that runway is in line with some of the restricted airspace immediately before landing or takeoff!One would hope for that, but alas it's far from the reality.
People buy houses next to airport runways; and then complain about the noise. So we find pilots now doing stunts that would make a fighter pilot proud, like throttling back their power seconds after leaving the runway and making sharp turns all to prevent someone from hearing too much noise. I don't recall if that's O'Hare or Midway in Chicago where they have to perform that nonsense, but regardless it's a dance that pilots should never have to do!
And we spend billions in this country erecting sound barriers alongside highways because someone brought a house without considering how loud the highway would be.
So I'm not at all surprised that people buying a house next to a train track never consider the noise associated with it. And then of course it becomes a problem that someone else should solve for them, as it couldn't be their poor decision that caused the issue.
River Visual is one of the most awesome approaches you can fly.Another example of "airport acrobatics" is Washington National Airport. Due to the restricted airspace over DC and the Pentagon, aircraft must do much twists and turns and follow the Potomac River when taking off or landing on the north. And that runway is in line with some of the restricted airspace immediately before landing or takeoff!One would hope for that, but alas it's far from the reality.
People buy houses next to airport runways; and then complain about the noise. So we find pilots now doing stunts that would make a fighter pilot proud, like throttling back their power seconds after leaving the runway and making sharp turns all to prevent someone from hearing too much noise. I don't recall if that's O'Hare or Midway in Chicago where they have to perform that nonsense, but regardless it's a dance that pilots should never have to do!
And we spend billions in this country erecting sound barriers alongside highways because someone brought a house without considering how loud the highway would be.
So I'm not at all surprised that people buying a house next to a train track never consider the noise associated with it. And then of course it becomes a problem that someone else should solve for them, as it couldn't be their poor decision that caused the issue.
Until they hit the bell off button.
These patterns were also originally developed to help reduce the impact of jet noise from DCA on the surrounding area. DCA was built before the age commercial jet aircraft. The first commercial jets were much louder than today's and when they started flying into DCA it made living under the approach and takeoff lanes rather unpleasant. I know this because I grew up listening to one very loud jet after another fly over our house.Another example of "airport acrobatics" is Washington National Airport. Due to the restricted airspace over DC and the Pentagon, aircraft must do much twists and turns and follow the Potomac River when taking off or landing on the north. And that runway is in line with some of the restricted airspace immediately before landing or takeoff!
The old Kai Tak airport in Hong Kong was famous for the degree of difficulty for landing & take-off.River Visual is one of the most awesome approaches you can fly.Another example of "airport acrobatics" is Washington National Airport. Due to the restricted airspace over DC and the Pentagon, aircraft must do much twists and turns and follow the Potomac River when taking off or landing on the north. And that runway is in line with some of the restricted airspace immediately before landing or takeoff!One would hope for that, but alas it's far from the reality.
People buy houses next to airport runways; and then complain about the noise. So we find pilots now doing stunts that would make a fighter pilot proud, like throttling back their power seconds after leaving the runway and making sharp turns all to prevent someone from hearing too much noise. I don't recall if that's O'Hare or Midway in Chicago where they have to perform that nonsense, but regardless it's a dance that pilots should never have to do!
And we spend billions in this country erecting sound barriers alongside highways because someone brought a house without considering how loud the highway would be.
So I'm not at all surprised that people buying a house next to a train track never consider the noise associated with it. And then of course it becomes a problem that someone else should solve for them, as it couldn't be their poor decision that caused the issue.
I do know that bells must be rung during train movement when pulling into, through, or from a station.
And the prevailing wind was usually in the direction that required landing from the mountain side. This meant using the famous "Checkerboard Approach", which consisted of aiming the plane towards a checkerboard pattern painted on the mountain near the end of the runway, essentially flying perpendicular to the runway while descending, and then almost at the last moment making a steep right angle turn over Kowloon houses to line up with the runway and land. If you had a right hand side window seat, like I did many times, you could literally look into people's living rooms it was so close. And this was regularly carried out by huge 747s one after another, landing at Hong kong Kai Tak.
The control desk has two buttons on it (well more than 2, but 2 important ones for this conversation), one labeled "Horn" and the other labeled "Bell".
They also do it to the south, but its more subtle.Another example of "airport acrobatics" is Washington National Airport. Due to the restricted airspace over DC and the Pentagon, aircraft must do much twists and turns and follow the Potomac River when taking off or landing on the north. And that runway is in line with some of the restricted airspace immediately before landing or takeoff!One would hope for that, but alas it's far from the reality.
People buy houses next to airport runways; and then complain about the noise. So we find pilots now doing stunts that would make a fighter pilot proud, like throttling back their power seconds after leaving the runway and making sharp turns all to prevent someone from hearing too much noise. I don't recall if that's O'Hare or Midway in Chicago where they have to perform that nonsense, but regardless it's a dance that pilots should never have to do!
And we spend billions in this country erecting sound barriers alongside highways because someone brought a house without considering how loud the highway would be.
So I'm not at all surprised that people buying a house next to a train track never consider the noise associated with it. And then of course it becomes a problem that someone else should solve for them, as it couldn't be their poor decision that caused the issue.
I'd say that's less of a curb and more of a wall.
This is true. Unfortunately there are several jerks on youtube who take pride in posting videos of people they have scared with their horn. :angry2:
The pilot pulling back the power and banking sharply just after takeoff is called a "Noise Abatement Procedure" and has been used for decades at many airports around the world. That and the issue of neighborhoods springing up around long established airports, then the residents complaining about noise were both mentioned in the 1968 novel Airport by Arthur Hailey (Don't remember if these events made it into the movie)
Or stop on tracks. The other day I saw two cars that I believe would have been hit, even if they were not directly on the track, if a freight train came at that moment. They were stopped because of a stopped garbage truck on the other side of the track. I'm not even sure they could see what the hold up was because I think there was a big truck in front of them. From one direction, the engineer would not even see them till he was almost at the crossing as he would be coming around a curve and have a building blocking his line of sight. Cars have been hit at this crossing in the past. Actually it's two crossings right next to each other as the road splits there.
They usually pass within 15-20 minutes of each other, so the first train is the warning, and the second train is "GO TO BED".
