Take a look at the tab for fall schedule..I believe the Summer Schedule ends 9-3 and they have the short Fall schedule, no winter service on that route...
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Take a look at the tab for fall schedule..I believe the Summer Schedule ends 9-3 and they have the short Fall schedule, no winter service on that route...
This is why I think it makes more sense to leave the Vermonter as is, and actually extend the Ethan Allen so as to terminate and turn at St. Albans where there already is facility to turn a train, instead of screwing up the station area in Burlington. Maybe even have it connect with the Vermonter/Montrealer in St. Albans allowing folks from Western Vermont to travel to Montreal.Also keep in mind that the eventual goal is to get the Vermonter to terminate in Montreal. That's what we should be working on. Turning west to Burlington would make that rather difficult although I guess a looooong backup move is possible.
Just another thought. In the days of the Palmer shuffle, the Vermonter had an engine (or some type of cab car) on both ends. Then an Essex Junction to Burlington reverse move would have been easier. There is no reason for that now and it is running with only one engine.
This is why I think it makes more sense to leave the Vermonter as is, and actually extend the Ethan Allen so as to terminate and turn at St. Albans where there already is facility to turn a train, instead of screwing up the station area in Burlington. Maybe even have it connect with the Vermonter/Montrealer in St. Albans allowing folks from Western Vermont to travel to Montreal.
Sure. But by terminating the EA there you do not increase network connectivity by creating just a dead end terminal when you have interesting potential network connectivity available 15 miles away. And in any case the station is still restored to its original function of serving as a passenger stop anyway.You could also look at it as restoring "the station area in Burlington" to its original function.
Thanks to both of you, Jennifer and velotrain,
Is Burlington worth it, anyway? It sounds like it has a nice touristy upscale trendy downtown waterfront, with nice restaurants and that pedestrian mall. Or is it seedy for the most part, with just a small nice area, and they have a good PR department?
But I only want to go if it is worth it to do all that train/ferry stuff to get there.
Yes. It’s not ten miles. It’s practically in Burlington.Essex Jct. isn't really that far from Burlington proper. Some years ago we did a circle trip up the Adirondack to Port Kent, over on the ferry, taxi to the airport, rented a car and went to Maine, then returned the car and took a taxi from the airport to Essex Jct., where we boarded the Vermonter for the ride back to Baltimore. I don't recall the taxi rides being particularly long or expensive.
Except that it isn't.Yes. It’s not ten miles. It’s practically in Burlington.
7.1 miles. 15 minute drive. That’s probably a $5 Uber. In most cities, that would be a normal drive or trip to the station. I live 30 miles from the nearest Amtrak station. Spending millions of dollars to detour a train into downtown Burlington for such a short distance? Give me a break.Except that it isn't.
Yes, Penn Station Baltimore is 8 miles from my house, and I live in Baltimore City.7.1 miles. 15 minute drive. That’s probably a $5 Uber. In most cities, that would be a normal drive or trip to the station. I live 30 miles from the nearest Amtrak station. Spending millions of dollars to detour a train into downtown Burlington for such a short distance? Give me a break.
7.1 miles. 15 minute drive. That’s probably a $5 Uber. In most cities, that would be a normal drive or trip to the station. I live 30 miles from the nearest Amtrak station. Spending millions of dollars to detour a train into downtown Burlington for such a short distance? Give me a break.
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