I was leaving ORD on United many years ago, listening to channel 9, and Air India kept repeating Approach Control's instructions incorrectly. Yikes!There is a reason I try to avoid Jet Airways if I can.
But then again there was Air India that forgot to deploy landing gears and tried to do a belly landing at Newark before they were shooed off by the EWR Tower. to go around and please deploy the landing gears before coming in the next time. Then again, I avoid Air India too if I can but for a very different reason involving an interesting experience with them many moons ago that caused me to have to go on a round the world trek to get back to New York.
Many vehicles have automated headlights or windshield wipers but you still have to set the controls to the automated setting to begin with. Same thing with pressurized aircraft. The pressurization setting maybe have been adjusted intentionally by maintenance personnel looking for evidence of a leak and then simply left it alone after they were done. If the operating crew didn't bother to check the pressurization settings as part of their mandatory preflight checklist then you might have some serious problems.It seems odd to me that the pilot would "need" to pressurise a jet airliner... Surely that must be automatic these days? There are some commercial pilots on the forum, what do they say? On a positive note, safe landing for Air India after multiple instrument failure on final approach... https://youtu.be/5FTw9TQtw38 Ed.
We'll always remember you.I have had 2 Jet Airway flights: Chennai to New Delhi and New Delhi to Mumbai. Both were comfortable, pleasant flights with meal service in Economy Class on both flights that offered an unexpected, and quality meal.
Were I to fly to India in the future, I would consider the services of Jet Airways.
The 777 I fly has an automatic system, which is very sophisticated. Further, if there are issues with the system, we receive multiple alerts in the cockpit. I didn't read the article, so not sure what type of aircraft it was, but most modern airliners have multiple warnings in place to alert the crew, if there is a pressurization issue.Many vehicles have automated headlights or windshield wipers but you still have to set the controls to the automated setting to begin with. Same thing with pressurized aircraft. The pressurization setting maybe have been adjusted intentionally by maintenance personnel looking for evidence of a leak and then simply left it alone after they were done. If the operating crew didn't bother to check the pressurization settings as part of their mandatory preflight checklist then you might have some serious problems.It seems odd to me that the pilot would "need" to pressurise a jet airliner... Surely that must be automatic these days? There are some commercial pilots on the forum, what do they say? On a positive note, safe landing for Air India after multiple instrument failure on final approach... https://youtu.be/5FTw9TQtw38 Ed.
I agree that modern aircraft are extremely sophisticated, with many prescriptive and corrective systems, but the operators remain fallible nonetheless. Although CRM played a core role in the Asiana Airlines Flight 214 a contributing factor was an irrational level of faith in the ability of the aircraft to self-correct for human mistakes. Helios Airways Flight 522 alerted the pilots to a pressurization problem caused by improper configuration but they either misunderstood or misinterpreted the nature and severity of the alert until it was too late.The 777 I fly has an automatic system, which is very sophisticated. Further, if there are issues with the system, we receive multiple alerts in the cockpit. I didn't read the article, so not sure what type of aircraft it was, but most modern airliners have multiple warnings in place to alert the crew, if there is a pressurization issue.Many vehicles have automated headlights or windshield wipers but you still have to set the controls to the automated setting to begin with. Same thing with pressurized aircraft. The pressurization setting maybe have been adjusted intentionally by maintenance personnel looking for evidence of a leak and then simply left it alone after they were done. If the operating crew didn't bother to check the pressurization settings as part of their mandatory preflight checklist then you might have some serious problems.It seems odd to me that the pilot would "need" to pressurise a jet airliner... Surely that must be automatic these days? There are some commercial pilots on the forum, what do they say? On a positive note, safe landing for Air India after multiple instrument failure on final approach... https://youtu.be/5FTw9TQtw38 Ed.
Can't speak for the 73, but on the 74 no action at all is required to set the pressurization. (except turning the packs back on after engine start, but in India you'd notice quick if you left those off) Now if there's a switch out of its normal position when the crew arrives (say outflow valve set to manual and full open) then that could be missed if they were rushing through their cockpit setup and not paying attention to their flows. But even then, the EICAS (airplane computer that warns you of danger) will tell you if you're in a nonstandard configuration like that.It seems odd to me that the pilot would "need" to pressurise a jet airliner... Surely that must be automatic these days? There are some commercial pilots on the forum, what do they say?
Ah, United Channel 9!I was leaving ORD on United many years ago, listening to channel 9, and Air India kept repeating Approach Control's instructions incorrectly. Yikes!
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