Also, I wonder if Amtrak internally refers to the two Horizon coaches as the Hoosier State. To do so, wouldn't there have to be something in Arrow that prevents pax from being booked on the Cardinal CHI-IND? I suppose it's possible (using 7/27/807 as a reference point). The only reason I bring this up is that Arrow lists the base pax cars with consist numbers (5032-5030, 5000), whereas the two IND coaches don't appear to have them. I'm sure somebody has an explanation.